Would someone be willing to expound upon the statement make in the EcuTek forum regarding the greater reliability and safety of EcuTek tunes over Techtom-based flashes?

I'm just curious as to what lead you to scrap Techtom and make that statement?

 

Without getting into the more technical aspects, while the Techtom and Ecutek ultimately both alter the EEPROM of the Mitsubishi ECU, the Ecutek offers a far superior interface as well as flexibilty for the tuner. What this means is given time over quality of tune you will get a far better result with Ecutek every time.

The analogy I can give is like trying to create a website. For the website you can choose to either hardcode the site through notepad (like the techtom) but generally speaking you will get much better results with programs such as Frontpage or other such software (like Ecutek).

Hope that makes sense.

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

Thanks for the response. Front page sucks a$$, but I get what you're saying . The EcuTek UI is superior which makes for more consistent results and lower probability of error.

 

Haha yeah, that and it's not that good to do 50 pulls on the dyno when it can be done in less than 20.

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

An important aspect that is little spoken about is the fact that the the Evo ECU's have a 100 flash hardware limit. If it takes 25 reflashes on techtom to get it right, you may only be able to flash the car 4 times before you are stuck on the last flash and have to get a replacement at $850 from the dealer.

Hope you don't mind us popping in here Gary.

 

For the benefit of those who us who know a little bit more (or think we do, heh), by all means get technical, otherwise it's just handwaving.

So far you've given examples that suggest Ecutek might have better map editors that make it easier to tune with (your web site analogy), but if you're going to use words like "safety" and "reliability" you owe a deeper explanation.

Let me put it another way -

In the hands of an expert tuner who isn't going to put garbage into the maps, what makes Ecutek better?

 

The additional profit margin, exclusivity of future tunes (as less dealers have ecutak) and the ability for a person that doesnt have all the hard code to do it right.

 

A couple questions. Does the ECUTek flash count towards the 100 flash limit?
Also does every change you make to the ECU count as a flash? If so, I think I'm near the limit of flash since I got my custom tuned by Shiv twice already.

 

It is not individual changes, it is each upload to the ecu that counts. You can make 20 changes, but upload once. Only counts once.

 

There is no more income potential in EcuTeK, than any other flash option. In fact I think it is less income potential with EcuTeK IMO.

You can flash Techtom over EcuTek so your statement doesn't hold true.

We have a software engineer with over a decade of hex code and programming experience. It makes no difference, We don't use it because it is easier, we use it because it is better and has consistant ongoing development for new features.

 

But you lose an expensive License, why did you conviently ommit that? You think thats no big deal to consumers? Also can you flash EcuTek over Techcom without paying for a License? Nope you cant. I think your statement doesnt hold true with respect for my money.

 

We actually make less selling the Ecutek system compared to the retail price of the Techtom reflashes. The reason being that once fixed cost is dropped on the Techtom there is no re-occuring license fee that must be paid to Techtom (compared to Ecutek where there is).

Irregardless of the experience of the tuner, the Ecutek interface would still be superior in terms of tunability compared to the Techtom. The reality of vehicle tuning is that a tuner can spend only a limited amount of time with each vehicle. Thus it is important to give the customer the best tune in the limited amount of time (usually 1-2 hours), which can be better achieved with the Ecutek software.

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

I still haven't heard how EcuTek is safer or more reliable or otherwise "better". I'm hearing "new features" but no details.

How about a Techtom vs. Ecutek competitive matrix?

Not trying to give you a hard time, I'm trying to give you an opportunity to sell the product.

Here, I'll start:

EcuTek is rumored to have decoded maps for more sophisticated scaling/compensation for aftermarket injectors. Can you speak more about this?