Dynod AUTO Lancer RIPP SDS KIT!!!
?? What's up with those mph numbers on the bottom. No way is a drive gear pull in the auto going to stop at 63 mph @ 6k rpm. Is that number bogus or undefined?? Comparing an rpm pull from 6k down looks like they started the pull around 3k? Is that right?
I'm overlaying the dyno's now so we can see a good difference between the kits but i need a few of those answers so i can be more accurate with the overlay. I won't post it here as this is your glory and its well deserved.
I'm overlaying the dyno's now so we can see a good difference between the kits but i need a few of those answers so i can be more accurate with the overlay. I won't post it here as this is your glory and its well deserved.
also notice the temps now that you mentioned the blizzard. It's cold out there bro. The testing on RRM's kit was done during one of the hottest months for so cal. I believe the day Guru dyno'd it was about 96 degrees out. That temp differece would have been nice for Guru. I need to move... it's either to hot, to wet, or i have to work when it's nice. Damn Socal weather!!
I don't want to start a fight here but i'm wondering about some things.
1) the mph on the bottom of your graph seems you did the pull in 2nd not drive as the drive gear tops out way higher than 65mph.
2) the torque is very very low. The intercooled turbo stage 1 automatic pulled about the same hp and more torque... i'd hope this is due to the tranny issues you were experiencing.
3) RIPP said the kit was ready for sale but you only were putting down 130whp... this is way off what was quoted from zoo's original setup. I know it's been asked but there were others that purchased the auto kit right? Will they get their stuff upgraded for free or how will that work out.
4) All these changes to the kit that are happening, especially now that you've dyno'd, are actually something i'd think would be needed by other kit owners. Will changes like the tensioner you mentioned and injectors be upgraded for past customers for free or will they be charged?
A lot of this is kindof taking me down a bad path i know but those first numbers were discouraging and your end numbers took some effort. In the end i'm glad ROSS was there to get things were they should be even though they weren't as good as i'd hoped. I think you have a great car and i know it's plenty fast. The kit price is right there as well(very competitive). You don't have to answer these ??'s there just concerns. Maybe RIPP can tell you what to say in regards to them. In no way am i downing your car or the kit as in the end it proved itself very viable. I just have a few concerns since some things don't seem right to me.
1) the mph on the bottom of your graph seems you did the pull in 2nd not drive as the drive gear tops out way higher than 65mph.
2) the torque is very very low. The intercooled turbo stage 1 automatic pulled about the same hp and more torque... i'd hope this is due to the tranny issues you were experiencing.
3) RIPP said the kit was ready for sale but you only were putting down 130whp... this is way off what was quoted from zoo's original setup. I know it's been asked but there were others that purchased the auto kit right? Will they get their stuff upgraded for free or how will that work out.
4) All these changes to the kit that are happening, especially now that you've dyno'd, are actually something i'd think would be needed by other kit owners. Will changes like the tensioner you mentioned and injectors be upgraded for past customers for free or will they be charged?
A lot of this is kindof taking me down a bad path i know but those first numbers were discouraging and your end numbers took some effort. In the end i'm glad ROSS was there to get things were they should be even though they weren't as good as i'd hoped. I think you have a great car and i know it's plenty fast. The kit price is right there as well(very competitive). You don't have to answer these ??'s there just concerns. Maybe RIPP can tell you what to say in regards to them. In no way am i downing your car or the kit as in the end it proved itself very viable. I just have a few concerns since some things don't seem right to me.
that'll be awesome. Agian you've got a great car there. It's a huge accomplishement. I'm just a little curious about some things. I don't mean to come off attacking or harsh. Let me know if i am and i'll back down.
Maybe you can try getting a test pipe/better exhuast on there to see if that opens you torque up a little. Did you put the cooler on your tranny or did it come with the RIPP kit. Was it need for your kit? I found that it was needed for the auto tranny as the fluid really got to hot with all that power.
Maybe you can try getting a test pipe/better exhuast on there to see if that opens you torque up a little. Did you put the cooler on your tranny or did it come with the RIPP kit. Was it need for your kit? I found that it was needed for the auto tranny as the fluid really got to hot with all that power.
Originally Posted by Boeturbolancer
I don't want to start a fight here but i'm wondering about some things.
1) the mph on the bottom of your graph seems you did the pull in 2nd not drive as the drive gear tops out way higher than 65mph.
2) the torque is very very low. The intercooled turbo stage 1 automatic pulled about the same hp and more torque... i'd hope this is due to the tranny issues you were experiencing.
3) RIPP said the kit was ready for sale but you only were putting down 130whp... this is way off what was quoted from zoo's original setup. I know it's been asked but there were others that purchased the auto kit right? Will they get their stuff upgraded for free or how will that work out.
4) All these changes to the kit that are happening, especially now that you've dyno'd, are actually something i'd think would be needed by other kit owners. Will changes like the tensioner you mentioned and injectors be upgraded for past customers for free or will they be charged?
A lot of this is kindof taking me down a bad path i know but those first numbers were discouraging and your end numbers took some effort. In the end i'm glad ROSS was there to get things were they should be even though they weren't as good as i'd hoped. I think you have a great car and i know it's plenty fast. The kit price is right there as well(very competitive). You don't have to answer these ??'s there just concerns. Maybe RIPP can tell you what to say in regards to them. In no way am i downing your car or the kit as in the end it proved itself very viable. I just have a few concerns since some things don't seem right to me.
1) the mph on the bottom of your graph seems you did the pull in 2nd not drive as the drive gear tops out way higher than 65mph.
2) the torque is very very low. The intercooled turbo stage 1 automatic pulled about the same hp and more torque... i'd hope this is due to the tranny issues you were experiencing.
3) RIPP said the kit was ready for sale but you only were putting down 130whp... this is way off what was quoted from zoo's original setup. I know it's been asked but there were others that purchased the auto kit right? Will they get their stuff upgraded for free or how will that work out.
4) All these changes to the kit that are happening, especially now that you've dyno'd, are actually something i'd think would be needed by other kit owners. Will changes like the tensioner you mentioned and injectors be upgraded for past customers for free or will they be charged?
A lot of this is kindof taking me down a bad path i know but those first numbers were discouraging and your end numbers took some effort. In the end i'm glad ROSS was there to get things were they should be even though they weren't as good as i'd hoped. I think you have a great car and i know it's plenty fast. The kit price is right there as well(very competitive). You don't have to answer these ??'s there just concerns. Maybe RIPP can tell you what to say in regards to them. In no way am i downing your car or the kit as in the end it proved itself very viable. I just have a few concerns since some things don't seem right to me.
to tell u the truth theres no other auto kits out there. ahha i'm the only one as of now and i think anchalite or whatever is.. sry if i didn't get it right just bought the kit from .L. and hes auto but he still has to get some parts to get the kit complete.there only like 10 kits out there. most of them are on show cars that are here in ny. they really don't get driven. the only others i kno r fkrzo and blazen oz who run there kits. but fkrzo is stage 1 and blazen oz is just chillin wherever he is. hes actually in school. the tensioner doesn't seem to be included with the kits price but thats what i think so it aint official so noone quote me on that.. and when comparing the stage 1 kit with the my kit ur also lookin at the 5spd and ur also lookin at a price difference. i aint startin here either. yea this kit is competitve now that pple know there are numbers now. a slipping tranny with a tranny fluid leak is def gonna loose trq. if i missed anything just ask again
Cassidy
well i have an auto too, and im piecing together the same kit, but with the changed items. i dont have any tranny issues, so i should get accurate readings when i go dyno it, which will be in no more than 2 monthes (im saying this amount because i dont want people coming back and saying WTF? lets say its a safety cushion.)
Originally Posted by Boeturbolancer
that'll be awesome. Agian you've got a great car there. It's a huge accomplishement. I'm just a little curious about some things. I don't mean to come off attacking or harsh. Let me know if i am and i'll back down.
Maybe you can try getting a test pipe/better exhuast on there to see if that opens you torque up a little. Did you put the cooler on your tranny or did it come with the RIPP kit. Was it need for your kit? I found that it was needed for the auto tranny as the fluid really got to hot with all that power.
Maybe you can try getting a test pipe/better exhuast on there to see if that opens you torque up a little. Did you put the cooler on your tranny or did it come with the RIPP kit. Was it need for your kit? I found that it was needed for the auto tranny as the fluid really got to hot with all that power.
Originally Posted by nextgenerationx
and when comparing the stage 1 kit with the my kit ur also lookin at the 5spd and ur also lookin at a price difference.
I think there is some tuning that needs to be done. Since there aren't any other auto RIPP guys around maybe RIPP should pull the setup until they get it completed. Right now it isn't done in my opinion. I think with a good tranny and some more tuning we could see better numbers and a better product. Just my .02, what you think next??
a good idea would be for RIPP to include their methonal injection in the base kit as well. Does the stage 1 kit include it now? The simple base kit is the only one that doesn't right? Why not drop the price a little and meet in the middle. That would be great for many that are looking at buying one.
Can you ask ROSS to post about the re-tuning. Last we all knew it was done and zoo was racing evo's and supposidely winning... not likely at 130whp though. It has been a long time since he's peeked in on these boards.
Can you ask ROSS to post about the re-tuning. Last we all knew it was done and zoo was racing evo's and supposidely winning... not likely at 130whp though. It has been a long time since he's peeked in on these boards.
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i'm a bit confused about the 130whp too, but from what i gather, that was a makeshift tune from awhile back. kind of a quick fix if you will because of the problems zoo was having (correct me if i'm wrong).
from what i've been told, its not like the kit ships with the 130whp tune. but i would like to know alot more cause i'm auto and i'm looking to get the ripp kit as soon as i find 3k under my coach cushions (could take some time).
what kind of numbers is stage1 looking at on auto? eventually i'm going to go stage2 (boost cooler w/ lightened pulley) but for the initial plunge i only want stage1.
from what i've been told, its not like the kit ships with the 130whp tune. but i would like to know alot more cause i'm auto and i'm looking to get the ripp kit as soon as i find 3k under my coach cushions (could take some time).
what kind of numbers is stage1 looking at on auto? eventually i'm going to go stage2 (boost cooler w/ lightened pulley) but for the initial plunge i only want stage1.
not only the exhaust suck *****...there are some major leaks in the catback as i noticed before it went back to ripp....cassidy...u are loosing a lot of pressure and i believe that is where u are loosing your torque...i could be wrong...i will be headding out to RIPP tomorrow....and RIPP it at SI
Originally Posted by GreenPsycho
i'm a bit confused about the 130whp too, but from what i gather, that was a makeshift tune from awhile back. kind of a quick fix if you will because of the problems zoo was having (correct me if i'm wrong).
from what i've been told, its not like the kit ships with the 130whp tune. but i would like to know alot more cause i'm auto and i'm looking to get the ripp kit as soon as i find 3k under my coach cushions (could take some time).
what kind of numbers is stage1 looking at on auto? eventually i'm going to go stage2 (boost cooler w/ lightened pulley) but for the initial plunge i only want stage1.
from what i've been told, its not like the kit ships with the 130whp tune. but i would like to know alot more cause i'm auto and i'm looking to get the ripp kit as soon as i find 3k under my coach cushions (could take some time).
what kind of numbers is stage1 looking at on auto? eventually i'm going to go stage2 (boost cooler w/ lightened pulley) but for the initial plunge i only want stage1.