Road//Race motor sports charges WAY too much for there turbo, and the quality is good but im not about to spend 4g's for a Automatic turbocharged kit.

I can get the parts cheap separately i know this, so what will i need exactly to piece my own turbo kit together, and how much about how much money can i get away with on doing it. (Intercooled turbo kit with BOV, and MBC.) Thanks

 

lookup some of Megadeth2118's posts, although he is doing a 04 model, most of the same stuff he is using should work on yours as well.

 

In the end it'll cost u just the same. Except RRM's kit is far superior than custom kits. RRM put in good R&D time into developing the kit, taking precise measurements and developing the kit to suit the lancer. Sure you can peice together a cheap custom kit but you still have to get the piping made (which costs MUCHO dinero if u go mandrel bends like RRM's kit). Also RRM backs their kit with excellent support. If your custom kit fails or blows your engine, you're stuck fixing the problem yourself. So RRM's kit is worth the extra $$$ IMHO.

 

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I dont know where people get the notion that a custom kit is more expensive than a pre-fabbed kit. Again, I paid about the same an an RRM non-ICed kit for my custom kit, and that included all the electronics, injectors, FPR, etc etc etc. Engineering a turbo manifold is not rocket science; there is nothing earth shattering that needs to be done. I am not saying any idiot can do it but some people here make it sound like it was an exact science that no-once can duplicate. Not taking away anything from RRM; I can neither vouch nor critique their kit. For what it costs, and for what you get, it seems overpriced to me. Perhaps someone less knowledgeable and more wary of being ripped off might have a different opinion. Nonetheless, some people just believe what they want to believe.

A typical turbo kit, you would need the following:

- Turbo, manifold, downpipe, intercooler, intercooler piping, oil feed, drain tubes / lines, wastegate, BOV and piping, boost controller, EGT gauge, boost gauge, air / fuel gauge, SAFC, bigger injectors, new fuel pump, cannot remember anything else right now. Of course, some of this stuff can be subsitituted - an FMU unit instead of a 1:1 and bigger injectors, and some can be "downgraded" - a manual boost controller instead of electronic.

Personally, I have helped Miragers hit the turbo button for as little as 1000 - 1500K, depending on what parts you use, condition of parts (new vs. used) and desired boost level. Typically, expect about 2.5K for a nice front mount intercooled turbo setup. If you need help, PM me. I would be glad to be of assistance.

 

I just bought the RRM IC kit for a few reasons:

1. service is good because i've bought stuff from them before and im very happy
2. im pretty sure the rrm kit is CARB legal
3. comes with powdercoated pipes and fuel management and bov
4. kit is tested and tried on many cars
5. comes with great service

To me thats worth the extra dough. I dont wanna be stuck with a kit that I bought over the net

 

a custom kit should cost nowhere near what ///RRM sells it for.



but, you spend a lot more time piecing it together sure its nice to save 2g's, plus rrm has never posted that they are the cheap way. But if you go RRM, then you have the reliability, and the R&D has already been done. your not wondering everyday what or when its gonna blow something in your engine. unless you trully know a lot about car and FI, but even those people have problems...so....take it for what it is, but if you want something that will be reliable and something that you dont have to worry about, ///RRM is the way

ragers are the start of everything, as you can earn a lot from those guys since they have been tuning the 93 for a few more year than we have

 

I'm gonna be late for school, but this is not true. AirQuez is on the right track.

The RRM kit is a barebones turbo mechanically speaking. No offense meant, but it's got the bare minimum fuel management and exhaust routing design. It gets the job done. The real concerns when building a turbo kit are 1. does it have enough fuel and 2. is it getting enough oil to keep itself lubricated followed by 3. heat heat heat. Yes, the R&D is comforting, but if you know enough you should have NO problem building a setup for about half the price. Now I'm not trying to minimize this or make it sound easy, but it's definitey possible. I certainly am not going to step on RRM's customer service either, as they've been most helpful to me and always, always good to me, but if you're capable of building your own "kit" I dont' think support is much of an isssue. And the mandrel bends thing is just silly because you can buy mandrel bends and weld them to straight sections as necessary for piping...but that's just one solution. Anyway, the value in your mind depends upon your knowledge and ability, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss building your own.

The bottom line is that a custom "kit" can be as cheap or expensive as you make it, but the real advantage is that you choose every last piece that goes into the setup, from first to last. If you need any help that AirQuez can't provide...feel free to hit me up. I've learned just about every lesson regarding FI, one way or another.

 

Andrew should be so proud of me:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo1.htm

 

One of the most useful links in this forum.

 

marc, ///RRM kit is not Carb legal

 

There are very few CARB legal turbo kits out there for NA cars... I don't know of any for our cars.