ok so i talked to the shop who's selling these kits.
There is no upgrade to a T28. apparently they don't have a downpipe that fits it.
and also, the SAFC is an extra $99.

 

Ask them if you can still get a T28 just without the DP and have one custom made, just get the T28 Flange.

 

16g is an option as well.

 

^i was thinking about that. i was looking on rrm's site at their 16g stuff. if i ever managed to go custom i think i would go that route. But i just don't know enough to buy the correct parts for a custom setup.

 

i think rrm is using a 20g

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/features/article.php?id=47

 

yeh i can't afford an RRM kit so thats why i'm looking into other options

 

I just posted that as a reference so you know what you need and such. To hit 300 hp you probably need about 7-10k$ in parts but you might be able to do it for less if you get really good deals and such.

 

^thats what i'm hoping.
my rough plans:
TSI turbo - $3000 (rounded up a couple of hundered for the couple of extra parts needed)
Injectors- ?????
SAFC- $100
P&P Head- $1000
Pistons & Rods- $1500
Ported I/M - Free (or very cheap)
Ported Fuel Rail- $40
Fuel Pump- ????
Tune- ????
Catback- $150
RRM Camshaft- $400

rough total for what i got: $6,100
i don't know how much the other stuff will cost. Anything i need to add?

Like i said, i would get the TSI and run it at around 7psi on stock internals for a while until i'm ready and have enough money to go full hardcore and go for 300hp. I just wanna know if this turbo is good for my long term plans and if i'm on the right track

 

If I were you I'd spend the extra 1000$ and get the RRM kit which comes with a better turbo. The TSI kit comes with a T-25 correct?
Injectors should be cheap, can just get em off a suby board.
For 300 hp you might need something better than an SAFC like a Greddy Emanage, AEM EMS, Haltech or Megasquirt.
P & P sounds about right if you get it done at a machine shop.
Pistons and rods are good, might be able to get em for cheaper if you're lucky.
Can get the IM done at the same time as the head. I have a stock IM if you're interested.
Fuel pump can be had for 80$ new.
If you're serious you might need something more aggressive than the RRM camshaft. RPW might be a better option.
Other things to consider are a bored throttle body and a decompression gasket.
Don't forget about install costs either.

 

^ok thanks for the help. Install should only be a couple of hundered. One of my good friends used to be a mechanic so he helps me do most things. He's pretty much teaching me stuff as we go. Like the other week we did my pulley & belts.

How much power would you esstimate i could get out of the TSI kit? with a good tune and all those supporting mods i listed?

 

250?

 

ok thats what i thought.
I mean i want your guys honest opinion, you all know me well enough. Do you guys think i NEED a 300hp lancer. Or do you think i would be just as happy with a 250hp lancer with the TSI turbo and some supporting mods. There are a few cars i wanna beat that my friends have. A stock honda civic. A stock Mustang GT and a stock 88 350zx.
if i can beat those i will be happy.

 

I think 200 hp on a lancer would be pretty damn good, 250 would be nuts. Don't forget these are light cars (2600 lbs?) so with 250 hp you have close to 1 hp for every 10 lbs.

 

hmmm ok. that sounds pretty good. i may ditch the 300hp plan and go for something more doable.
so for say 220-250 hp.
which of those support mods do you think i would need to go with the tsi kit for that kind of power?

I'm thinking i could probably ditch the p&p head, possibly the internals? Although someone is selling a p&p head for $500 so i may get that anyway.

I also am planning on picking up a phantomgrip lsd insert. Only because the RRM LSD doesn't fit an Auto.