Plus, you don't need an exhaust manifold.

 

That would be really cool, difficult, but cool.

 

i vote for the DSM side mount. Its suprisingly easy once you move the battery.

 

Why not supercharge w/o a FMIC ???? You'll have a better powerband, it will be cheaper, and will run a ton cooler....

 

How would the powerband be better? From I remember the supercharged lancers had a very similar powerband to their turbocharged cousins but had less power overall. The kit wasn't any cheaper (RIPP system) than buying a turbo kit from RRM and it certainly wasn't cheaper than a custom turbo kit. Heat is an issue with a supercharger as well, this is why a lot of supercharged cars use intercoolers or water/meth injection. Any time you compress a gas, it heats up according to the formula

pV=nRT

 

I read an article in one of the import magazines at the news stand where they put water injection in a turbo'd NSX, with no IC. The magazine monkies seemed pretty happy with it. If you get the kit that they had in the magazine, it had some sort of flow sensor and it would send a signal if the flow reduced. They had it hooked up to a piggyback that could read the signal and switch maps based on whether the water was working or not. It also had the option of running warning lights off the flow sensor, so if the water stopped you would know and could turn down the MBC. Sorry I don't have more details, but I was just browsing the magazine on lunch break.

 

Wow thanks for the Physics 101 formula ...Superchargers are generally more efficient and create more linear power and generally run cooler. You probably won't be able to run too much boost without a FMIC (either w/ a turbo or a supercharger)...It really depends on what you want to do with your lancer -- if you are looking to build a great street car or a road race vehicle, then I would highly recommend a nice supercharger setup (rotrex)....If you go the turbo route make sure you get a really small one that operates very efficiently in low boost applications.

 

Unfortunately no one makes a simple supercharger kit for the lancer anymore, RIPP stopped making theirs all together it seems. You could make a custom one for the price you could make a custom turbo kit with any intercooler type you want.

 

Well if someone really wants to charge their lancer and is in Socal PM me and I'll help take care of you...

 

Surprised nobody mentioned one of these; an air/liquid intercooler. Still requires a radiator, but it's a lot less piping. Thought it might help.
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/component...0266a0a5ba.jpg

 

Actually this idea has been brought up by a member(Slowcar). I do know that he mentioned to me that he could run tons of methanol /water/alcohol but deleting the IC and thus eliminating turbolag.

Needless to say this was just a theory/project and pros and cons had to be balanced.

Carlos

 

The efficiency with an air/liquid intercooler greatly decreases the longer the car runs. It would be just like warming up the car, once you get to a certain temp it would just stay that temp. Good for drag racing, I would say bad for daily driving. That's just from what I learned though, no actual experience with them.

Well, my question started out as theory, so I was just looking for answers/opinions. Thanks for giving the member name, I'll probably shoot him some questions to better grasp the pros and cons of it.

 

How could/would you manage to do this? Im just curious but would the manifold have to extend to the turbo way at the back of the engine back, under the engine? I can't even picture this being possible with the current lancer engine.

I know the '08's are pretty much set up already for this...i think Mitsubishi realized the turbo at the back is a better design just like all the audi/vw's! But its a pain to work on when its all tucked at the back...

 

nothing wrong with eliminating the intercooler and running straight meth.
You'll need a good failsafe...a good kit and large enough nozzles to dump a nice amount of meth in the system. You could save money and do a 50/50 mix...meth/water

I know of 2 people in the VW world that ran without intercoolers.
1 has a VR6 turbo charged T3 customized with a high flow fuel injector nozzle and the other had a 1.8T GT28RS no intercoolers on both...great results.

I believe Buschur did a test where he had an BT EvO same setup...test 1 eliminated the intercooler and had great results no Knock...etc
he backed up the test with the same setup and his RACe intercooler core...gained like 15-25whp just by the switch alone.

It will be a decent amount of work, but the payoff and results will be pretty impressive.

I <3 Meth

 

If I'm right about what they are saying, you run the full exhaust and have the turbo mounted somewhere under the car, towards the rear wheels and have a pipe running back up from there. I'm not sure if that's what they mean, but they did it to a GTO at my school. The intercooler they bought for it actually took away about 13 HP, so they mounted it this way. It looks cool and it's actually a pretty cool idea, but you can't let anyone know it was there, otherwise it'd be stolen in about 30 seconds.

Guys, please correct me if I'm wrong about what you were saying.