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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 4g94T
This is done on E85 of course, not bad for $2.70 per gallon.
Boost was at ~17 PSI on a T28.
Timing is untuned at the moment.
AFR is too rich at peak torque (need to lean it out) and tapers to 12.5 AFR and spikes to 13.X (that's where the problem is)

The base pull was at 5 PSI.

If you've seen my old setup on E85 at 14 PSI I made around ~220whp and ~275wtq
but the power curve was horrible. It peaked too early and dropped way too quickly.

I feel 400+ whp and trq is just around the corner.
This is a joke right?

You really think swapping to a octane rating just over 100 and 3 more psi are really giving you an increase of 140whp? Come on now... A t28 wont make 400whp, a larger 2871r wont come close to 400whp without way more psi to max it out on a great flowing motor

Get on a REAL dyno and see

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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cincy
This is a joke right?

You really think swapping to a octane rating just over 100 and 3 more psi are really giving you an increase of 140whp? Come on now... A t28 wont make 400whp, a larger 2871r wont come close to 400whp without way more psi to max it out on a great flowing motor

Get on a REAL dyno and see
If Im not mistaken, the evo 16g and the bigt28 flow almost the same.
Evo guys are making 500whp (600whp on high compression) on e85 with the stock 16g.
I dont see how the bigt28 wouldnt be able to touch 400whp especially with e85.


On my previous setup (before the build) everything was stock except for fueling and exhaust. Thats why theres such a large jump in power.
Especially now with the 10.5:1 CR.


As with VDR, its consistent as long as you use the same road and it has different correction factors on dynos to use (ie. buschur, GST, etc). The gear ratios are inputed, tire size, drag coefficient, frontal area, vehicle weight, occupant weight.
Its not accurate by +/- 1, but its close. Others have tested it.
If I cant tune this, it'll be properly dyno tuned by a professional.





Engine:
  • Wiseco 10.5:1 CR Pistons
  • Pauter Rods + ARP bolts
  • RRM Ported / Polished head
  • ARP head studs
  • Fidanza Cam Gear
  • RPW 272 Stage 4 turbo camshaft
  • RPW Valve Springs
  • RPW Throttle Body
  • Ported Intake Manifold / Machined TB side
  • Tial 38mm EWG
  • Garrett bigT28
  • RRM Manifold
  • RRM Intercooler + piping
  • RRM Lightweight Pulley
  • Buschur Racing Catback
  • RRM Testpipe
  • K&N Intake Cone
  • Hallman Boost Controller
  • APS Dual Vent BOV
  • EVO IX MAF sensor

Fuel:
  • Deatschwerks 750cc Injectors
  • Walbro 255
  • Aeromotive FPR
  • Bored fuel rail
  • E85

Tuning:
  • Stock ECU
  • ECUflash
  • Mitsulogger
  • Zeitronix Wideband
  • Zeitronix ZR-2
  • STRI boost gauge
  • STRI oil pressure gauge
  • STRI EGT (not connected)
  • VDR



I think thats all of it.

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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 01:15 AM
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So are you running really aggressive timing right now?
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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very nice numbers
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ThunderOZ
So are you running really aggressive timing right now?
No, running aggressive timing with e85 will break something




Originally Posted by vityenyka05
very nice numbers
thanks
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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I ordered the 1 bar tial spring and it should be coming in tonight.

I currently have the .4 bar spring and I read in other forums that you should NOT go over double the wastegate pressure via MBC.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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nice. so what kinda boost u want to be pushin? and when u gunna go get on a real dyno to verrify those numbers?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Haven't driven it since last week, but Im going to raise it until any more significant power is being made.

if something breaks during the tuning process,
then it'll be down for a while since I am trying to pay off my card and I dont want to transfer to a university while paying bills.
I froze my credit card so I cant make any future transactions. Its the only way to stop from using it

Final tuning will be done on a dyno (unknown date atm),
it'll be easier to tune MBT due to the consistent numbers
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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wow so you increased compression, for boost. thats interesting i dont think ive seen somebody do that,

so what would be better, lower compression and more boost,
or higher compression with less boost.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bvasquez12
wow so you increased compression, for boost. thats interesting i dont think ive seen somebody do that,

so what would be better, lower compression and more boost,
or higher compression with less boost.
higher compression and higher boost makes real power, but I heard it sucks tuning it because its so hard, apparently its easier to tune with lower compression
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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You can get away with high compression and high boost with the right fuel. People have been saying I'll lift my head off even with arp head studs, but it's all on timing.
I wouldn't do it on regular pump gas though.

High compression feels awesome when driving in the city (stop and go). I don't have to spool the turbo just to keep up with traffic.

I wish I can get it properly tuned with the tuners here that tune e85, but I think I'm done.

I have an s2000 to play with now =]
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Wow Those are nutty numbers for a lancer!!! Would love to see some pics of this beast!
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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haha.. didnt know u got an s2k.. thats more then likely my next toy once we start on this crx that me and my buddy have.. i want a big turbo fire breather s2k.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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s2k!!! why not an evo
!!

so these numbers are on stock transmission and stock axles?
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bvasquez12
s2k!!! why not an evo
!!

so these numbers are on stock transmission and stock axles?
evos suck... lol they break 24/7.. cost to much.. dont make enough power, arent that fun on the street, eye soar. have crappy interriors, weigh a ton and a half.. look like a mega rice burner asian kid is suppose to be driving it.

s2k is much nicer choice

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