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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Intercooling non-iced turbo

Have any of you done a custom intercooler on the rrm non-intercooled turbo, cause thats what im going to be looking at doing. Just wanted to see if anyone has done it and what i should do about ordering it, caseu the piping is going to need to be completely different.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Turn the turbo around 180 degrees, get the piping bent or welded from bends and straight sections or just cut the sections and use turbo hose to connect them. Shouldn't be hard, shouldn't be expensive.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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where do you get turbo hose
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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nah they converted my non-ic to intercooled in a day (plus time for the pipes to go to the painter). you will need to have your turbo messed with to have it face the right way and then just pipes.

if you have the RRM kit then they could sell you the pipes you need and tell you what needs to change.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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RRM pipes with diff. IC

I was looking at lancers with oversized intercoolers.. and i was wondering would the RRM pipes still work with other oversized intercoolers.. like.. i seem to recall reading something about kontradictions intercooler.. he has an oversized blitz or perrin or something.. but yeah... maybe spearco.. do you think he is still using the RRM pipes or he had to go custom?
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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well i have the RRM pipes, but i have Kontradictions old intercooler, since he got a new one from his sponsor. so it fits with the one i have.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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yeah, im planning on going oversized spearco, i think that the rrm piping will fit but im not 100% on that, correct me if im wrong. I'm gonna see if I can buy the non-iced kit from them, only have the intercooler piping and whatnot, that way i'll have their kit here and then when my intercooler gets here it can all go on together, does that make sence, hopefully they will let me do that, btw, does anybody know if they will do polished silver piping?
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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no REAL need to actually flip the whole turbo setup, its easier to just cut and reweld the little head thing (sorry to get technical) 180 degrees, thats wat road race told me to do and its what im going to do
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Yeah, but then you'll have your intake charge doing a 180 through your intercooler. Mui inefficiento. (I'm awesome at Spanish.)

If you clock the turbo to face left (looking at the car from the front) your charged air will flow through more piping (granted), but the piping will take less harsh bends and be less restricted by size and space. I'm assuming that's why everyone does it that way on their intercooled turbo kits and setups in the first place.

Whether piping will fit depends upon intercooler size and end-tank design. It can easily be MODIFIED to fit, but it may not just bolt right on.

You can get turbo hose from just about any performance parts store. Samco makes it, Turbonetics makes it, Hose Techniques makes it...etc.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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yeah im not looking to cut and weld anything, i think if you just bolt it up facing left i'll be fine, then the piping will go to the left then 90 down then 90 to the intercooler etc. etc. im gonna see if rrm will sell me the intercooler piping and then i'll just get my own intercooler, better spending 300 than an extra G.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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ever wonder why turbo's are installed in certain ways... maybe the flow of exhaust determines a flow dirction on the the turbo thus affects its position. Maybe if you just switch a turbo around on it's base you could get a more turbulant flow causing spooling issues?? Just a thought... not STATING anything... Good luck!
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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ummm, ok im lost are you saying that my idea is wrong or that everyone else is on the wrong path. i'll prolly b calling rrm soon to ask about what i can get as far as a bit of a custom set up for what im lookign to do...
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i would order the intercooled kit without the intercooler, trust me it will save you alot of headache and heartache
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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That is the plan, im just hoping that the price isn't going to go up a lot just cuase i need a few different pipes, i'll call them and ask about it.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by Boeturbolancer
ever wonder why turbo's are installed in certain ways... maybe the flow of exhaust determines a flow dirction on the the turbo thus affects its position. Maybe if you just switch a turbo around on it's base you could get a more turbulant flow causing spooling issues?? Just a thought... not STATING anything... Good luck!
Usually it's cuz of the oil return from what I've learned, but clocking it shouldn't really change the incoming exhaust as far as I can figure. Maybe I'm missing something. It's still travelling the same pipiing the manifold, still making the same trip into the turbine, but if you mean exhaust into the downpipe then yeah, it's quite possible. If I remember correctly turbulent flow is also considered a good thing in post turbo exhaust though.

I can double check that turbulence thing when I get home, but I'm pretty sure it's true.
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