Could you use keyboard cleaner as an alternative to nitrous?
As an IT Tech I'd feel like I'd chime in as an expert in this field. Yes.. a Keyboard Can will achieve the needed 1.21 jiggawatts for at least 1 solid pull. It will kick in real hard after 88 mph and you will burn tire all the way down the track. However it is getting the installation equipment that's going to be hard to find (Mr. Fusion); but yes theoretically it is possible. I'm down for a group buy.
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No can koozies needed, setting my proprietary can retention brackets (CRB) near a heat source such as an exhaust manifold will help propel the scavenging effects in the intake tract. Basically reverse osmosis and Newtons 2nd Law have a lot to play in this. If all goes well I foresee IAT's going down and wheel horsepowers going UP drastically. In some cases by a whole horsepower!
-Keep the PM's coming! We almost have enough for a group buy. I know more than 5 people wanna go FAST!
-Keep the PM's coming! We almost have enough for a group buy. I know more than 5 people wanna go FAST!
I've noticed that if you turn a can of keyboard cleaner upside down it will turn into a cold liquid. So theoretically speaking couldn't it work like a dry shot of nitrous? Except it's a dry shot of keyboard cleaner. I'm not going to put it on my car because the stock pistons aren't strong enough to handle 10 psi if had a turbo on it. But in theory couldn't that setup work? I guess you could call it a poor man's nitrous kit. Just some idea that popped in my head while I was at work
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Nope I was really serious about the question. I don't have plans at all on putting it on my lancer, my heart is still set on a 16g turbo build. But I read somewhere that if you turn a can of keyboard cleaner upside down that it would turn into a cold liquid. So that's where I got the idea of a cheap dry shot nitrous (or keyboard cleaner) kit.
To the OP:
As much as I'm enjoying these witty responses (and I am), I feel like someone should toss in a little bit of actual information... This stuff isn't even close to nitrous, and most brands are composed almost entirely of fluorocarbons (which are bad). No nitrogen content either lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_duster
As much as I'm enjoying these witty responses (and I am), I feel like someone should toss in a little bit of actual information... This stuff isn't even close to nitrous, and most brands are composed almost entirely of fluorocarbons (which are bad). No nitrogen content either lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_duster
OP, Realistically the question you are asking is can you substitute CO2 for N2O(nitrus oxide). Nitrus works because N2 is the natural state of the stable pure nitrogen molecule and O2 is the natrual state of the stable pure Oxygen molecule. When N2O is introduced into the cylinder (intake tract) it increases the amount of oxygen available to be burned. as the molecule will easily split into N2 (inert (read unreactive/harmless) gas) and O2 because they are more stable molecules. Unlike what Corruptr was alluding to the Nitrogen does nothing except being agreeable in letting the oxygen run free. Adding oxygen is oe of the thing you need for combustion. with Nitrus you add fuel to compensate for the increased oxygen. More of both means more power. A side benefit is the cold nitrus will allow the intake air to become more dense allowing even more fuel and oxygen to fit into a smaller space, i.e. more power again.
CO2 is happy as is because carbon doesn't like splitting from oxyen as they are already stable. This is why CO2 isn't flamable. Hence the reason CO2 is one of the things that comes out of the engine after combustion. This means no oxygen is freed up to be mixed with fuel to add to cumbustion i.e. no additional power. In fact it will only be taking up room that could have been oxygen anf fuel so there will be a loss in power. Getting back to that side benefit of the tempature mentioned above. Using the colder temp of liquid/evaporating CO2 will drop the intake temp and you will get the benefit of more dense air and packing more into the cylinder. So how do you get that benefit without the downside of taking up room in the cylider with CO2? Don't put it inside the intake tract, just spray it on the outside of the intake pipes. Before you ask, yes, they have this already with CO2 intercooler spray kits. This work well enough to make it worth it because intrecoolers are designed to transfer heat more efficiently than if you just sprayed co2/ran cold air over a pipe.
I can't speak to the florocarbons but realistically if they are there then they will likely have a negative impact on your engine during cumbustion are in your intake air but they will not matter if you spray them on the outside of the pipes.
In the end, if you sprayed it over your intake pipe (N/A car) you may get very small gains (most likely negligible) and even less if that pipe is made of plastic rather than metal. Its probably not worth the effort but people do this stuff all the time for the tinyest gains and feel its worth it. On a turbo car it may be more worth it but really for the money, you would be better off spending it elsewhere until you have upgraded everything else and are looking for those last little gains.
There. A serious answer to your question!
CO2 is happy as is because carbon doesn't like splitting from oxyen as they are already stable. This is why CO2 isn't flamable. Hence the reason CO2 is one of the things that comes out of the engine after combustion. This means no oxygen is freed up to be mixed with fuel to add to cumbustion i.e. no additional power. In fact it will only be taking up room that could have been oxygen anf fuel so there will be a loss in power. Getting back to that side benefit of the tempature mentioned above. Using the colder temp of liquid/evaporating CO2 will drop the intake temp and you will get the benefit of more dense air and packing more into the cylinder. So how do you get that benefit without the downside of taking up room in the cylider with CO2? Don't put it inside the intake tract, just spray it on the outside of the intake pipes. Before you ask, yes, they have this already with CO2 intercooler spray kits. This work well enough to make it worth it because intrecoolers are designed to transfer heat more efficiently than if you just sprayed co2/ran cold air over a pipe.
I can't speak to the florocarbons but realistically if they are there then they will likely have a negative impact on your engine during cumbustion are in your intake air but they will not matter if you spray them on the outside of the pipes.
In the end, if you sprayed it over your intake pipe (N/A car) you may get very small gains (most likely negligible) and even less if that pipe is made of plastic rather than metal. Its probably not worth the effort but people do this stuff all the time for the tinyest gains and feel its worth it. On a turbo car it may be more worth it but really for the money, you would be better off spending it elsewhere until you have upgraded everything else and are looking for those last little gains.
There. A serious answer to your question!
There used to be an electric fan that people put in their intake to create positive intake pressure. I think it was 1 lb of boost. There were maybe 2 people who swore by it. Most likely the people who invented it.
I like to use the common sense test of, If it makes power efficiently then why doesn't everyone use a bigger more powerful version instead a normal turbo or suprecharger system?
year later still didn't happen.