so about 6-7 months ago i was asking all sorts of crazy questions on turboing, than i decided my car is slow and always would be so i was gonna make it 'show' instead..but..

mirage-performance.com sells 1.8 RPW Tubo Manifolds for $365....
dsmtrader.com - t25 or 14b turbo for under $100

also for the turbo manifold i thought about just getting a 4g63t manifold and hacking off the flange and welding my stock flange onto it, than boring out where necessary...would that work?

me and my friend can do all the custom work.

just curious how i go about getting the fittings/hoses for like the 'oil' return and all that stuff. could i get it at like autozone or do i need 'heavy duty' stuff so to say?

well i guess thats it....i plan on starting to buy all this stuff hopefully next month, haha. gonna compare my lancer exhaust gasket and a turbo eclipse gasket and see hwo different they are...

 

I hope youre a really good welder because welding mild steel or a stainless flange to a cast iron manifold isnt easy and wont last very long. You would be better off putting together your own tubular manifold. As for the lines and fittings, you can buy kits pretty cheap for specific turbos or got to a performance/turbo shop. They always have them laying around.

 

Go 14b . . . you have a bit better top end pull.

 

This is true... you should just see if you could get a mirage turbo manifold off the 1.8 setups. They'll fit on the lancer exactly. Don't know if the turbo will sit where you want it but it's a better start.

 

Nice find on the manifolds! That's exactly what I've been searching for also cuz like Boe said, they'll bolt right onto the 4g94.

 

14b is better than a t25? cool lol.

i think the 14b is cheaper.

i really don't care where the turbo is, im not tryin to make it look good lol, if u saw my car u'd understand...its always in pieces or has some zipties holding things together roflmao.

i just want some more speed, honeslty mid 14's would be more than plenty for me(i say that now) but i think with a 14b and 7psi non-ic ill only be at like mid 15's lol. damn automatic transmissions.

i might get an IC... "flame suit on" but i like the walker kit...*ducks, hides behind chair...waits 3 days* lol just the walker kit has the huge front opening and an IC would look beautiful there.

thanks for all the info guys! now to save money, haha...easier said than done unfortunately...

 

another question, would the 1g/2g stock SMIC be decent or should i just save the money and get a nice FMIC?

is the 14b aka the "TD05H"?

 

Well a few things to remember with turbo placement:
Location relative to oil pan - The closer to level the turbo is with the pan, the easier flowing the oil will be to keep the bearings lubed up.
Location relative to heat - Less heat = less heat soak = better.

 

lol i didn't even think about it that way lol. i think if i could just mount it...right where our downpipe starts, that would be alright i suppose, just depends how the 1.8 turbo manifold is.

i gotta gather all the pieces so it will be a while lol.

where can i get like stainsteel hosing and fittings and stuff for oil return lines etc.

14b, 1.8 mirage manifold, greddy type-s BOV, tial 38mm wastegate, 2g gsx fuel pump(or 255walbro), fmic, vortech fmu 12:1.

now the real question...where do i put the MAF to allow me to vent to atmosphere? hehe

 

The problem you're gonna run into by going VTA is that the MAS has already calculated all the air, then when you vent it out you'll cause the system to run lean for that first moment when the throttle plate opens back up - cuz you've lost some of the air that the MAS has counted.

There are piggyback and standalone systems that allow you to eliminate this problem though. Andrew (hobie) told me that the AEM EMS will do it, and the Greddy E-Manage can handle it as well. That's gonna be another piece to your puzzle to keep in mind.

And as for the manifolds themselves, where on the website did you find it? Is it in the mirage forums link? Better yet, can you shoot a link onto here? Maybe we can get a group buy together!

 

http://www.mirage-performance.com/apparts/turbo.html

there is the link, scroll down and you'll see the 1.8 for $365
and another 1.8 with 45mm external wastegate for $475

 

Thx for the link, and good luck with your project! Be sure to keep us updated!

 

I don't think the AEM EMS and the Greddy E-Manage works with the Automatic Tranny

 

How so? I have an auto and my e-manage works just fine.

 

Aem hasn't been developed for auto application and i don't think they will anytime soon. The emanage is fine and does a great deal as long as you don't go to excessive as you're still working within the stock ecu's parameters.

I'd get the cheaper manifold without external and save some cash on both... the 14b should be set at 7psi from the 1st gens. With the emanage you should be able to tune for that boost. If you place the MAS on the pressure side of the turbo you can vent to atmosphere... however the MAS was never designed to see positive pressure so you may end up hurting it after awhile. This is why people recirc it and put the MAS on intake side. If you go emanage you can use it to tune the signal out on release... thus take car of the over rich condition caused normally by VTA'ing.

A local shop could tap your oil pan for a return setup or even weld a flange on it to connect to a return pipe. Oil return pipes are easily found all over... even the dealerships have them. Just get one and mod it as needed. Oil supply is easy as well. Any descent turbo shop has kits for these purposes that are universal.