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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Evo Turbo for OZ?

Will this turbo work with a custom manifold?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99620
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 06:49 AM
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Anyone? I don't want to buy it and find out I can't use it! Please help!
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Pretty sure the manifold will not work. You can use any turbo on any car, it's getting it hooked up that's the problem. If you buy the turbo, you'll need to get a turbo manifold that will work for a Mirage and the EVO8 turbo. If you run a search for "mirage turbo manifold" in this section of the forum, you'll find a link to a site where you can buy the manifold. I'm not sure what the turbo model is that is stock on the EVO8 (T-28, 16G, ... ?), but you'll need to find out to find a compatible Mirage turbo manifold. Search the EVO8 forums and you'll likely find the answer to that question.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Hey BlueIrish, some dude is selling his stock EVO VIII 16G in the private for sale forums with Wastegate acuator and O2 housing. No price listed. Here is the link:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=100062

Just thought I would let you know.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LancerO-Z
Hey BlueIrish, some dude is selling his stock EVO VIII 16G in the private for sale forums with Wastegate acuator and O2 housing. No price listed. Here is the link:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=100062

Just thought I would let you know.
That's what got me looking at it. I'm trying to figure out the comparison between this one and a new T28 to figure out if I want to buy it.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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Do a search on the Puerto Rican Turbo Lancer. Fastest Lancer in the Western Hempishere. (Maybe world, but dunno).

That dude did a custom turbo job using mirage headers I believe. Look for his thread because I dont want to give you wrong information. But his car is a beast and he hasnt even removed interior components to lighten his car.

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My couz is going to school for Mechanical Engineering and he was telling me that he was learning how to take the A/C unit and moving it forward toward the intake and using it as an intercooler. According to his professsor it can lower the air mix 40 degrees thus giving the car a boost of HP. Anyone ever heard of that? I only bring it up because it is another custom wat to boost your turbo.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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for a 4cyl car moving the AC to help cool airflow is most likely uselss. the AC robs the engine of power to begin with, then it helps cool the airflow making back the power it costs to use and maybe only adding a few more... overall it seems like a waste of money to try, but I do believe that ford did something like that before or now with the lightning..

If you were turbo'd however, it might be a worth the try if you can do it cheaply
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by psionic98
for a 4cyl car moving the AC to help cool airflow is most likely uselss. the AC robs the engine of power to begin with, then it helps cool the airflow making back the power it costs to use and maybe only adding a few more... overall it seems like a waste of money to try, but I do believe that ford did something like that before or now with the lightning..

If you were turbo'd however, it might be a worth the try if you can do it cheaply
Sorry about the off-topic,

But I've never heard the A/C robbing the engine of power, but I have heard that it is a heavy a$$ unit.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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The AC robs power absolutely! The reason is that it is belt driven; which directly puts a load on the engine. The more things your engine has to turn using a belt (i.e power stear, AC, etc) the less power going to the wheels. That's why the evos are like pigs with the AC on; as are most cars. Now, in larger engines like V6, I6, V8, etc, you don't notice it as much because there is more "overhead" in relation to power.

Hope that explains it.

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Sorry about the off-topic,

But I've never heard the A/C robbing the engine of power, but I have heard that it is a heavy a$$ unit.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by siantjab
The AC robs power absolutely! The reason is that it is belt driven; which directly puts a load on the engine. The more things your engine has to turn using a belt (i.e power stear, AC, etc) the less power going to the wheels. That's why the evos are like pigs with the AC on; as are most cars. Now, in larger engines like V6, I6, V8, etc, you don't notice it as much because there is more "overhead" in relation to power.

Hope that explains it.
Got it
Thanks
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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Ok.. the stock mitsubishi turbo on the Evo8 is a twin scroll, TD05HR-16G6-9.8t

it is a reverse rotation turbo, hence the hot side would face the passenger side (right side) of the car) and the inlet on the cold side would be facing towards the driver side.

You can get anything to work on any car, however you will need a TWIN SCROLL header (Evo 6 through Evo8 header), you would then cut off the flange that goes to the head and use a header flange from your head (Assuming the rest of it clears)

ok.. so now you have the Turbo mounted how you wanted (sorta) you will need an adjustable wastegate actuator to drop the boost from its wastegate regulated 10.5psi minimum. And you'll need a custom downpipe (buy an Evo downpipe and cut it up where you need to)

Once you've gotten this far, you then just have to work out your intake piping etc. Engine management, and exhaust..

The other thing I had pondered is how difficult it would be to adapt the 2.0 or 2.4 block in the lancer to take the Evo head.. it would solve alot of issues, other than the engines ability to withstand high boost, but you can contact RNR since they built a 2.4 short block (presumably based on the 3g eclipse engine block) for their Evo..

Given enough time and money you can do ANYTHING.. I certainly wouldn't mind taking on a project like this with a local Lancer owner to see if it can be done.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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I would actually like to see someone fabricate/offer a conversion header for the twin scroll turbo simply because it would create a secondary market for this turbo, I could see a turbo like this easily being used on a first gen 420a DOHC engine from a neon (where the exhaust manifold is toward the firewall)
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