Cheap Amp
Get a good amp! Bazooka is kinda 'run of the mill' these days and will most likely be disappointing.
cupOZnj sometimes we think alike, Im all about the cheap under a hundred dollar subs, in a good box with a good amp they sound the same as three hundred dollar subs.
Originally posted by cupOZnj
eh. buy a new amp. don't go cheap on the amp, it's the most important part. go cheap on the sub.
eh. buy a new amp. don't go cheap on the amp, it's the most important part. go cheap on the sub.
I agree...at least get a decent amp that'll last and push good power. Subs sometimes blow and the difference in sound quality won't be heard by most people (especially if you're not building a competition system)...if you're gonna skimp, subs are the place to do it imo.
That is a pretty low power amp... 250 rms into 2 ohms.. so 125 rms into 4 ohms and only 60 ish into an 8 ohm sub. So depending on what you are running... it is probably fine if that is what you are looking for as far as power etc...
I'm going to disagree with you guys when it comes to the amp versus sub. A crappy amp pushing an efficient sub is going to do better than a good amp pushing a crappy sub. You are going to get higher spl and better response from a quality subwoofer. The amp just provides power (they have to be within 15% of the claimed power by law... just keep in mind that any "posted" power is almost always peak... so just divide it by two and you are at the rough output of the amp in actuality.
You also don't have to deal with that much as far as fidelity when you are running an amp as a subwoofer so you can get away with the cheaper amp as well because of that, the noise you typically get in a system is usually above 1kHz... WAY above what your sub should be pushing out.
That's my two cents I guess!
I'm going to disagree with you guys when it comes to the amp versus sub. A crappy amp pushing an efficient sub is going to do better than a good amp pushing a crappy sub. You are going to get higher spl and better response from a quality subwoofer. The amp just provides power (they have to be within 15% of the claimed power by law... just keep in mind that any "posted" power is almost always peak... so just divide it by two and you are at the rough output of the amp in actuality.
You also don't have to deal with that much as far as fidelity when you are running an amp as a subwoofer so you can get away with the cheaper amp as well because of that, the noise you typically get in a system is usually above 1kHz... WAY above what your sub should be pushing out.
That's my two cents I guess!
i have that same amp but with 3 times the power and its the ****...
i have had rockford amps and P.G amps both high dollar good quality amps, but nothing i have had or heard can come close to perfect as the Bazooka EL1500. be that as it may the one your looking at is smaller and used. if i were you i would call a few C.C's in your aera they sell the el1500 for 100.00
IMO its a bad *** mono block. just my 02
i have had rockford amps and P.G amps both high dollar good quality amps, but nothing i have had or heard can come close to perfect as the Bazooka EL1500. be that as it may the one your looking at is smaller and used. if i were you i would call a few C.C's in your aera they sell the el1500 for 100.00
IMO its a bad *** mono block. just my 02
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Im not talking about Pyramid/Boss/Kraco/Sparkomatic subs either, the cheap subs Im referring to is Pioneer's regular lineup. All (even the 15 I have) are widely available on the net for under 100 bucks.
I guess i was looking at it of the say you are buying a 12 inch sub and a 200 watt RMS amp... and you could either buy the 30 dollar amp and the 250 dollar sub or buy the 250 dollar amp and the 30 dollar sub... then I'd go 250 dollar sub with 30 dollar amp... but when you get to like spend 200 on amp and 300 on sub, or spend 300 on amp and 200 on sub.. then definitely go 300 on amp and 200 on sub... which would be in line then with what you guys recommended in the first place... 
And Btw.. I always just wrote Hobie as a shortening to your handle... not cause I actually thought it was your first name
And Btw.. I always just wrote Hobie as a shortening to your handle... not cause I actually thought it was your first name
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amp is most important. a 100watt, efficient amp, will ALWAYS put out better sound than a 300watt, inefficient US Acoustics amp. the sub should be matched to the power you are giving it. i agree that any "****" piece of equipment is not reccomended.....
i'm just saying that the amp is NOT the place to skimp.
i'm just saying that the amp is NOT the place to skimp.
I'm going to have to 100% disagree with your ALWAYS statement...
Case A and B
A) If you buy a Jensen amp rated for 50 Watts RMS it'll probably put about 35-40 Watts RMS. Costs you like 100 bucks say. And then you spend 200 bucks on a JBL sub that is 92dB sensitive.
B) You buy a RockforFosgate or Alpine or whatever you prefer amp that is also rated for 50 Watts RMS. It'll probably put out something like 65-70 watts (this comes from my brother who sells audio equipment for a living and in high school was a car audio install technician) and then you buy a 100 dollar Pioneer subwoofer which is 87 dB sensitive.
Whether you like it or not... the simple physics and technical end of it.. Case A WILL be louder. And if the Q factor of the JBL sub is sufficiently better than the Pioneer sub, it will also sound better. plain and simple. That isn't opinion, that isn't talk.. that is plain and simple physics. My numbers are hypothetical, but the science isn't.
In truth you are better off buying a better amp if you will get a better sub later. But if you plan to spend 300 bucks and never do it again... and you can achieve the discrepancy in the numbers that I put up there... Case A will be your way to go. For ever 3dB of sensitivity it takes TWICE as much power to drive that sub to the same SPL.
Case A and B
A) If you buy a Jensen amp rated for 50 Watts RMS it'll probably put about 35-40 Watts RMS. Costs you like 100 bucks say. And then you spend 200 bucks on a JBL sub that is 92dB sensitive.
B) You buy a RockforFosgate or Alpine or whatever you prefer amp that is also rated for 50 Watts RMS. It'll probably put out something like 65-70 watts (this comes from my brother who sells audio equipment for a living and in high school was a car audio install technician) and then you buy a 100 dollar Pioneer subwoofer which is 87 dB sensitive.
Whether you like it or not... the simple physics and technical end of it.. Case A WILL be louder. And if the Q factor of the JBL sub is sufficiently better than the Pioneer sub, it will also sound better. plain and simple. That isn't opinion, that isn't talk.. that is plain and simple physics. My numbers are hypothetical, but the science isn't.
In truth you are better off buying a better amp if you will get a better sub later. But if you plan to spend 300 bucks and never do it again... and you can achieve the discrepancy in the numbers that I put up there... Case A will be your way to go. For ever 3dB of sensitivity it takes TWICE as much power to drive that sub to the same SPL.