I don't even understand why 87 or 89 are not choices. Iv'e never heard of a higher grade of fuel increasing performance on a N/A vehicle, its wierd. Please, someone fill me in on the gaps I am missing here.

I was going to get this but there isn't any way I will now since i can't put 87 gas in my car. The price of gas is just going to far up to even go this route. I was actually getting this for the increased HP and improved MPG and lowering the cost for my daily drive. Some good that does when I have to throw 91 in the tank.

 

when they tune they pulling timing which increases the chance of knock, a higher octane fuel reduces/gets rid of the knock so they can tune for more power

 

I dont think you HAVE to have 91 or 93 octance....if you look at the full sheet that you have to fill out for the flash the options for 87 and up are actually there.

 

Ok well that makes sense, they do the same thing for turbos too. I wasn't thinking about it like that. To be honest though I would rather lower hp, like 10or something, and use 87 then have to use 91 just to get 13. I guess I shouldn't be complaining because this is the best hp increase mod on the market right now. It just sucks that you have to pay such a high price on a daily basis to keep it that way.

I'm sure you could keep puting 87 in your car anyway but I don't think I would want to take taht chance. You could really hurt your engine orver time if you use 87 and the higher octane is thier to stop the engine from knocking.

Also, yeah the sheet says 87, but that sheet looks more like a general sheet from what I can tell for many things.

 

I emailed works, I will let you know what I find out





I left a voicemail last week inquiring about the flash. No one got back to me so I thought I should email.

1.) When will it be available for mail in?
2.) Will it work on the Canadian spec cars (I think FED spec, however the canadian lancers are built in Japan and I think the US ones are built in the USA)?
3.) Can you please send me a dyno sheet?
4.) Because they are tuned at sea level and I live at 1049m ASL how will the ECU perform, do you have changes in the flash?
5.) Could I get the TPMS sensors disabled as my summer rims dont have the senors and it is very annoying?
6.) The options for the fuel octane are 91/93, is this accurate or is that something left behind from the Evo tune page?
7.) Does the price of the flash include shipping there and back? Do you insure your shipping?
8.) Do you alter the rev limiter? if so where do you set it now?

Thanks

Brendan

 

as far as I know they all come from Japan

 

True they are all manufactured in Japan

 

there was a thread on here that RRM said you had to find your chassis code. I thought it said the US one was made in the USA and the Canadian one was made in Japan.

 

no dumb a$$ they are all made in Japan 100% of it.

 

^^ What The Hell Was That For *******

 

regardless of that bull****



this is the thread I am thinking of

not quite what I was thinking of

 

87 - 91 - 93 like the pennies difference is that big of a deal.

The greatest gas saving tip ive heard and used is this:
Calculate your gas budget. Only spend that budget on gas. Change your lifestyle to reduce your mileage. Move closer to work and remind your employer that the GOV rate for mileage is 50+ cents per mile. If you burn through your budget then you spent too much time in the car. Recalculate your routes / errands and mode of getting there ( car, bus, metro, walking, wheelchair, horse, golfcart, ect.. )

If your not willing to make small lifestyle changes to reduce your gas use, don't even think about *****ing about using 91 / 93 gas. And for those who claim they are just doing it for the improved MPG, get off the internet, you're wasting energy burning up PC and Server CPU cycles.

Now for those of you who are here for fuel burning purposes like Horse Power, here is something WORKS sent me the other day.


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"From a power output standpoint, the WORKS Brain Flash software for the ECU is comprehensive for all models, including the CVT-equipped Lancers.

Limited user-programmable interfaces are being discussed, but not something offered with the initial release of the Brain Flash.

Increased rev limits are very possible and we generally bump the RPM limits a bit over the factory spec. Going too far over can lead to A) excess strain on certain engine components and/or B) no net increase in usable power. The 4B11T can rev well beyond the 7100 RPMs you mention, so "A" probably isn't much of a factor with the 4B11 N/A, but "B"
certainly would come into play as power does drop off beginning around 6000. However, there are situations where holding a gear longer can be beneficial even if you're not making power--the time/power lost shifting between gears (i.e. "no power") vs. the reduced power at high RPMs can be useful when approaching a turn in an auto-X/road race scenario.

I'm not sure how the factory D vs. Sport selection affects the ECU's map selection, but know in other Mitsubishi models using automatic transmissions, the Power/Economy switch for the auto would allow more/less aggressive timing for changes in power output--generally translating to about a 3% variation. From personal experience, I can't say I noticed a change in fuel economy toggling between the two positions in my old '93 Eclipse. However, I did pick up about 2 MPG
(~10%) when I went to the Brain Flash in my '03 EVO. I'll relay this question to our Software Engineers and see if I can bring some further insight to this.

The average gains that I've seen on the '08 Lancers is in the neighborhood of about 10% peak output. I haven't analyzed the full area under the curve to provide the average over the entire power band, but do know that the lines for the Brain Flash are above the factory level at all times--small gaps on the low end that widen as RPMs increase to peak areas of the graph. Yes, we can and do tune for bolt-on modifications. Software upgrades for the components purchased through us are provided at no charge (aside from possible shipping). Small fees (usually $49-$99) may be applied for some items purchased elsewhere that involve upgrades to the software. Other items involve relatively small changes to the airflow/performance that can still be monitored by the factory sensors and allow the ECU the flexibility to "learn" on its own.

Being a new model, factory ECU flashes from Mitsubishi are somewhat common. WORKS has always been on top of this and can fully integrate all the Mitsubishi software with our own. In general, the ECU has been a non-issue from a service/warranty standpoint, but we do offer the option of going back to stock at any time should the "need" arise. In the past, we've had customers that have unknowingly (until after the
fact) had their Brain Flash software overwritten by the dealership. We have always reloaded the WORKS software at no charge should this ever occur. This scenario may be a thing of the past as new provisions are being taken with the WORKS software and should alleviate this issue.

The TCM itself present another component dedicated to the control of the CVT unit and while it does communicate with the ECU, it works independently. The CVT Flash is a project on our "to do" list, but not one that is currently available. The specifics you mention are definite possibilities, but I really don't have any ETA or cost information available as it is something sitting somewhere along the R&D path with unknowns along the way.

The turnaround/delivery time is generally what occurs for our ECU service. Saturday deliveries are more expensive and can be limited in some geographic regions. Please give us a call at the shop to confirm everything including shipping information. If I'm not available, speak with Bill and he'll ensure you're taken care of.

Thank you,

Jamie"

 

^^ wow wicked

 

Brendan,
Sorry about the delayed reply, but here are some of the answers you seek
regarding the WORKS Brain Flash:

1) Mail-in ordering is available, but there are still some logistics
we're sorting out. We should have this resolved in the next few weeks.

2) Canadian models do have some variations, but haven't encountered any
additional hurdles as far as the ECU tuning is concerned. (WORKS has
been flashing ECUs from all over the world for a few years now). All
North American models are built in Japan and have 4 different ECU
platforms, but each share basic similarities.)

3) We have dyno sheets and will be posting one on our webstore, which
represents the average gains with the Brain Flash software.

4) Differences in altitude will affect performance and the ECU's ability
to account for this will remain intact using the OEM sensors, etc...

5) TPMS is something we're exploring, but not actively over-riding at
the moment.

6) Yes, there is a fuel option for the Lancer as well. Just a small
oversight on the webstore.

7) Shipping is additional to the cost of all our parts and is always
insured from us.

8) Yes, we have full control over the rev limiter and usually raise it
by a few hundred RPMs.

Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thank you,

WORKS Team

WORKS
Infineon Raceway Unit L-1B
29673 Arnold Dr.
Sonoma, CA 95476
T 415.226.2500
F 415.226.2501
www.worksmotorsports.com
POWER | PRECISION | PASSION

 

Hey Cos, you asked about the TPMS, but did you think about asking if the DRL's could be cut out?