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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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okay guys, thanks for all the info.

Looks like im gonna stay N/A... No point of throwing away warranty.. i never planned on selling this car btw.. when i said i want to buy a used S2000, i want that to be my track car and the lancer as my winter beater.

i like N/A because its smooth. I hate cars that clutch so tough. i love the clutch on my stock lancer and i dont want to ***** with it. Plus i spank enough higher end cars already.

From a degree of 1-10 how much gains do these parts produce:
Camshafts
flywheel
flash
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Since nobody makes camshafts for the Lancer, there's no way to tell what the gains will be. Generally the more gains, the rougher the camshaft (meaning shaky idle, requirement of supporting mods, etc). A flywheel is a waste of time since it offers no power gains. A flash can add a decent amount of power but it won't work miracles.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Since nobody makes camshafts for the Lancer, there's no way to tell what the gains will be. Generally the more gains, the rougher the camshaft (meaning shaky idle, requirement of supporting mods, etc). A flywheel is a waste of time since it offers no power gains. A flash can add a decent amount of power but it won't work miracles.
what kind of supporting mods are recommended for AF camshafts?
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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how is it that we cant have the power of an S200? i know the s2k is a 2.0L just like the lancer but why cant we build up internals and other things and have near/close to as much HP/power as the s2k.

also why is it that the s2k has dual exhaust and its only a 2.0L like the lancer? why would we have backpressure problems and they wont, because duals comes stock
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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cuz no one makes internals for our lancers..ur talkin 2.0L im talkin 2.4L (09) same **** tho..PLUS s2k is a rear wheel SPORTS CAR underline it SPOOORTS CAAAR (not to mention with 11k redline) lancer is economy, aka go to the store to pick up ur woman some tampons..not saying its not capable, jus wasnt designed for that purpose
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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how is it that we cant have the power of an S200? i know the s2k is a 2.0L just like the lancer but why cant we build up internals and other things and have near/close to as much HP/power as the s2k.

also why is it that the s2k has dual exhaust and its only a 2.0L like the lancer? why would we have backpressure problems and they wont, because duals comes stock
HP is a product of RPM and torque. The S2000 can rev to what, 9000 RPM? Some are getting over the 10000 RPM barrier. The Lancer redlines at 6500 RPM? You simply cannot get high HP out of a low displacement motor without revving high. The F20 is a completely different machine, you cannot compare them.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by I Am God
what kind of supporting mods are recommended for AF camshafts?
Valve springs, ported head, cam gears, etc.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
HP is a product of RPM and torque. The S2000 can rev to what, 9000 RPM? Some are getting over the 10000 RPM barrier. The Lancer redlines at 6500 RPM? You simply cannot get high HP out of a low displacement motor without revving high. The F20 is a completely different machine, you cannot compare them.
well you talk about high reving thats all high RPMs but yet adding duals to a lancer you would lose low end power, why dont you get the same thing with an S2K and also i bleieve the lancer has more torque than the s2k does
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Racecarzz08
well you talk about high reving thats all high RPMs but yet adding duals to a lancer you would lose low end power, why dont you get the same thing with an S2K and also i bleieve the lancer has more torque than the s2k does
You're comparing two completely different motors. Just because they're the same displacement doesn't mean they're going to behave the same. As an obvious example, you can have two containers that both hold 2.0 Ls but how they're designed has a dramatic effect on how well they can flow. If the S2000 is flowing a crap load more air, backpressure isn't an issue. Since it revs to the stratosphere, it needs to be very open since while it may lose some low-end grunt, it gains a lot of high RPM power.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
You're comparing two completely different motors. Just because they're the same displacement doesn't mean they're going to behave the same. As an obvious example, you can have two containers that both hold 2.0 Ls but how they're designed has a dramatic effect on how well they can flow. If the S2000 is flowing a crap load more air, backpressure isn't an issue. Since it revs to the stratosphere, it needs to be very open since while it may lose some low-end grunt, it gains a lot of high RPM power.
ok but why cant we upgrade our internals and someone come up with a way to where we can rev higher, so we could possibly make 200hp like for an example an s2k

or can we just nobody has made the right parts yet
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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no one makes interals for our motors..YET

if u want to raise redline buy a WORKS ecu reflash, they can raise it up
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Racecarzz08
ok but why cant we upgrade our internals and someone come up with a way to where we can rev higher, so we could possibly make 200hp like for an example an s2k

or can we just nobody has made the right parts yet
quit whining about the F20C/F22C.
Honda engineered the engine to perform like that
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by I Am God
no one makes interals for our motors..YET

if u want to raise redline buy a WORKS ecu reflash, they can raise it up
well from what i understand evo x internals are swappable between the lancer..Xtreeme boost has tested this already.

so in theory there are internals already
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Racecarzz08
ok but why cant we upgrade our internals and someone come up with a way to where we can rev higher, so we could possibly make 200hp like for an example an s2k

or can we just nobody has made the right parts yet
If you want a high revving, high HP NA motor, buy a Honda. It would cost you more money to make your motor behave like the F20 than it would to just buy an S2000. Even with upgraded internals, you're not going to go from 6500 RPM to 10000 RPM.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Racecarzz08
well from what i understand evo x internals are swappable between the lancer..Xtreeme boost has tested this already.

so in theory there are internals already
if were talkin 09 GTS 2.4L...then no...2.0L's? ya theyre interchangable, but everything was design for a motor that is boosted..its different specs if ur n/a, ull run like **** or even worse do permanent damage
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