Well the only engine mod is an Injen CAI. I'm waiting for GReddy to make an exhaust for the 04's. They certainly are taking their time. I don't see how it would be a waste to get it before other mods. Would installing it now make it less powerful then if I waited until I had an exhaust, header, etc?

 

I really think you should just get a cam if you are serious about performance.

I had the PB and for the money I spent on it I think I could have almost gotten the cam and paid to have it installed. That's what I am going to do next.

The price of the camshaft and the price of the PB are near identical. You just need to have someone you know who can install the cam if you can't do it yourself.

WADAD

 

What's a good camshaft for the Lancer?

 

Pm sent.

WADAD

 

well he claims that he lost the immediate off the line tack off speed ....but he would fly on the freeway .....he took it off and now i am tring to take it off his hands! and were did you find a camshaft

 

yeah, but dude, i think you need tuning for a camshaft just to yield gains. i don't believe you can just throw a camshaft in and voila! 40hp.

the greatest n/a gains from a camshaft are a result of full intake mods (tb, im, intake) along with tuning via an emanage or the like. so yeah, we're talking alot more than the PB in the long run, although alot more power

 

That may be true what you are saying Greenpsycho and I am going to find out soon but my point was if you want to go further than the PB in N/A mods then you will be wasting your money on it.

That is true of all us Eastcoasters. The CAL boys can just ride down and get a custom tune.

WADAD

 

Which is what I miss most about living in San Diego. There is import shops everywhere. Here, nothing. I have to mail order everything instead of stopping into Pann Auto Performance to get stuff.

As for the camshaft vs ECU. Well I can always get both. But probably the ECU first. To restate my previous question: Does it matter if you put the ECU in an engine without a lot of performance mods or after every other mod has been installed?

 

ecu!

 

I would recomend getting the greddy e-manage piggy back ecu first and then getting the camshaft as that would mean you can get the best out of the camshaft later.

Also the greddy with a few additional items can be upgraded to run a turbo with no problems.

We use the greddy all the time and have found it to be the best priced piggy back on the market with the most functions and options.

 

you know....i was real skeptical on the PB at first....my suggestion...dont knock on it till you have tried it....

my experiences with my path:

1st engine mod: AEM CAI....loved it...sound and performance!

2nd mod: greddy evo exhaust .....love the sound...performance was good up at the top.

3rd mod: kamikaze header with DP....: wow....the car screams....loved the performance gains...but was a little too loud for my liking
---pocket dynoed my car wtih CAI, Header, Exhaust(thanks rhyzin)....got 119whp!

---got stopped at sobriety checkpoint----i wasnt drunk or anything, but they got me for my header.
---took header off----

sold header and bought the piggyback..

insatlled the piggy(complimenting mods were AEM CAI and Greddy exhaust)....OMG...gave me power thoughout the whole powerband...kicked more *** than the header....without the loud *** sound....now i did dyno with the header and got 119...i know if i would have dynoes with the piggy i would have yeilded more than just 119...

now i would have loved to have both the header and the piggy at the same time...but...gas prices rose to like $3/gal for 91(ouch!)

so i sold the piggy to mars...and he loved it!....

so for the money between header and piggy....its not a hard decision, i would buy the piggy all over again before i bought another header....but i do pland on getting both..again soon enough....so you decide


side note: this is my experience, not everyones experience will be the same...i also like how people say i would rather spend my money on intake/exhaust...
an intake(name brand) cost we'll say $150...
an exhaust(cat back) whether custom or brand name can go from $200-$600 depending oh which one you go with.

even if you put both of those mods together...it will not yeild as big of a result as a piggy would...

 

i was actually looking into this but im not too knowledgable on tuning..and what not and i myself wouldnt feel too confortable doing this right away(especailly as a beginner)...tho the emanage( from what i ahev heard) works great on our lancers

 

Not quite.



Not necessary true. Miragers are a frugal lot, and I believe 99.9% of us w/ cam work never touched the TB or IM. 2-3 miragers have the stage 1. There are either a stage 2 and/or 3 floating somewhere in the US. I know two had cyl head work over any work on the TB or IM.

The best testimonial should be Dudeinamirage. He has experience w/ the stage 1 cam and a PnP cyl head work done by Dan Paramore, famous for his nissan and getting kudos from the H&A guys' work .

http://www.dprracing.com/


Great point!

From reading this thread, I kinda suspected that the RRM ecu makes HP equalling to upgrading a header itself. I understand this POV. It's a shortcut. You don't really need to open up the motor.

 

I've already got the Injen CAI, that was my first mod. I wanted to get the GReddy Evo 2 exhaust but they told me the exhaust for the 02-03 wouldn't work for the 04 Lancers and they were working on an exhaust for the 04s but had no release date. So as it is, I still have my stock exhaust. After the exhaust I planned on getting a header. Thankfully SC has lowered priced gas than most of the country so 93 octane would cost me about $1.90.

 

you guys want a good read on cams?

rhyzin...had this to say about it

http://www.geocities.com/rhyzer149/cams/cams.html

read up!...good info in there