I am considering getting one from RRM and wondering, does it require a turbo to get one? Also, what kind of gains would be associated with this?

 

Do a search for more info, but no you don't need a turbo and its like 10% gain or so depending on what mods you already have.

 

no turbo needed....they say like10%-15% i believe but u need to run 91 octane or better

 

That's correct. I have the RRM piggyback on my car and have had it for a year. I noticed a definite horsepower difference and a turbo is not necessary b/c I do not have a turbo and it's not necessary for the pigguback. You do have to use 91 octane or better gas though.

 

yeah, thats what iv hear, thx guys. Also, who knows about the restrictors on the OZ. My freind claims that there is an O2 sensor restrictor or some crap, but i dont believe it.

 

Never heard of an O2 restriction.

 

my friend has a rrm piggyback ecu. all the power seems to be in the high revs, hmmmm......... has this happened to anyone else?

 

The piggyback's power gain is greatest in the mid-to-high RPM range. This is true.

 

Not really feeling the piggyback ecu, sorry streetspeed. Just think the money could be spent on better mods like header, intake, full exhaust, things like that.

 

Say you have all that on your car already, by putting on the Piggyback your car gains 10% So for the sake of argument lets say that NA you do all of the mods you can to your car and you are pushing near 160-70 hp, the piggyback will add 10-15% hp to your car. That's 176-190 hp... That's if you do everything you can to the motor, larger pistons, I/H/E, throttle body, flywheel, etc... (more than likely though most of us might see 140hp before we see 160... it would take a serious amount of tuning to get to 190 hp on a NA lancer)

Now on a base model lancer that's getting 120hp, that number for gains gets you to 132-138hp. Tell me how it is not the best bang for the buck?

Now the numbers I mentioned are just guesstimates but they are about what people are saying is possible. If I had the money I'd get the PB before anyother mod, soley because it works off of other bolt ons. That's just my logic... I still want to get one once I have the money.

Fox

 

That's why I'm getting the ECU. Thing is, some people only care about mods you can see and show off. I haven't seen any pics showing the ECU in a car, but I doubt it stands out as much as say an intake or exhaust. Of course with a 10-15 hell maybe even 20 horsepower gain it's more than any other single aftermarket mod creates.

 

You don't see it at all. At least that is my understanding of it. It goes behind the glove box and is hidden, that's the whole point. It's not suppose to be seen. I think it is much cooler that way anyhow.

Fox

 

Here is my theory on the piggyback. If you're going the NA route, and already have all the bolt on modifications, then going with an ECU will be worth it to enhance the gains of those mods. If you don't want to fiddle around with the fuel ratios and timing yourself, then get the piggyback. If you want to get your hands dirty and do all the tuning yourself, then I would go with a Greddy Emanage.

If you don't have all the bolt ons already, I wouldn't bother with the piggyback. For stock it does smooth out the acceleration and gives some additional power, but it just isn't worth the money. You could save a little more and buy a used turbo kit and it would be much more worth the money.

 

its a "chip" they sell for 10$ on ebay, that you plug into your o2 sensor and its supposed to allow more air into your engine upping your horsepower 20! YEA RIGHT! I actually fell for this con back in the day with my old car. The engine bogs and everything..It's a terrible con. The resistor is a little piece of paperclip with a small fuse on it basically that is "tricking" the o2 sensor to think there is more oxygen than there really is. Its the stupidest thing ever!

 

A guy I know put one in a Lancer.

And got CEL.