A/F ratio for n00bs
k, i'm dumb. there are gif copies of the the report in the thread. a dur...
good round-up of his posts. it's a sticky in Engine Tech.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=65648
good round-up of his posts. it's a sticky in Engine Tech.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=65648
Here's a good link I found for you apes.
j/p, always pickin' up new info so I figured I'd make up for my lost chart by sharing this. 
http://www.daytona-sensors.com/tech_tuning.html
j/p, always pickin' up new info so I figured I'd make up for my lost chart by sharing this. 
http://www.daytona-sensors.com/tech_tuning.html
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Originally Posted by HobieKopek
Here's a good link I found for you apes.
j/p, always pickin' up new info so I figured I'd make up for my lost chart by sharing this. 
http://www.daytona-sensors.com/tech_tuning.html
j/p, always pickin' up new info so I figured I'd make up for my lost chart by sharing this. 
http://www.daytona-sensors.com/tech_tuning.html
And yet Boe didn't blow up on 91...

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And later on, we get this:
Originally Posted by the article
A useful rule of thumb is that raising the compression ratio one point (i.e. from 10:1 to 11:1) increases power by about 3%. However this potential power increase is only available if the gasoline octane allows running the engine at the MBT timing value without detonation.
Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
Interesting - according to the CR chart, the RRM piston crowd should need 98 octane to optimally run 10.5:1 pistons.
And yet Boe didn't blow up on 91...
And yet Boe didn't blow up on 91...

Originally Posted by The Article
However, the practical limit for 93 octane pump gasoline is about 10.5:1. If you try to use a higher value, you will have to retard the spark timing to the point where the engine will actually generate less torque than one with a lower compression ratio.
The % power increase is based on larger displacement motors I believe. The basic theory remains the same.
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I went to 10.5; moved the mouse straight up; moved the mouse straight over; mouse was sitting in the high 90s. I estimated 98.
Here's an example...
Here's an example...
I didn't intend for that to be a guide for anyone's tuning uses.... it was more to help answer some questions that had been presented in the thread that it was plucked from. I, of course, don't have a problem with it being quoted, but at the same time, the caveat that it's not going to take into account all tuning variables needs to be presented.
FWIW "limp mode" has the AFR at 9.6:1
God I hate our ECUs....
FWIW "limp mode" has the AFR at 9.6:1
God I hate our ECUs....
Oh, I see what you're saying. I was quoting from the text. I think that chart is ideal range, their comment mentions safe range.
EDIT: In the case of the Lancer I'm sure the ECU will just pull timing until it reaches whatever the max limitation of the ECU is. Then it'll throw a CEL and crap out into limp mode.
EDIT: In the case of the Lancer I'm sure the ECU will just pull timing until it reaches whatever the max limitation of the ECU is. Then it'll throw a CEL and crap out into limp mode.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/archiv...p/f-7-p-1.html
Here is my contribution :P
Here is my contribution :P
Combustion is combustion no matter what car you're in. EFI principles remain the same throughout most automobiles too, however the different engine configurations lead to different problems and fixes.
Ok, so here are my questions:
1) Is the graph accurate, because then at stock compression 9.5:1 we should be running 90 octane fuel, when
recommends 87.
2) What does each pound of boost do to the compression ratio?
1) Is the graph accurate, because then at stock compression 9.5:1 we should be running 90 octane fuel, when
recommends 87.2) What does each pound of boost do to the compression ratio?



