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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by twisty1251
NO.

if you are gonna go custom you should do your homework. There is a lot more involved than you think.
+1, unless you're stealing all of the stuff. if you really think its that cheap, you really need to study, you will mess up that engine severely if it costs that little.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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question along this same topic

so i got a muffler welded on 2 months ago. and it has the sound i want. but my question is am i losing hp/torque b/c the muffler size is 3.5 and the piping on the opposite side of the muffler is 2.5 for about 3 ft?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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along with this, i like the deep sound from my muffler but how can i make it louder? with a resonator? and how does one go along with the muffler?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Who said it didnt fit? (but the idiots who said it "would never work")
It fits perfectly. in fact the 4G93 and 4G94 are the same Head so it bolted right up.
I didnt need to change anything but shorten/cut the end of the Downpipe, really.

RRM and RMRs are 4-1, thats why I said that.



I hear ya, thats why I went with 2.5, cus its only a 1/4 more than 2.25" (I dont think it could really make that much change, can it?) and a 1/4 less than 3", so when the Turbos on, it'll be right down the middle and sufficiant.

The Turbo is going on as soon as I buy a Turbo and Intercooler.
I want a Turbonetics Turbo or a Garret in Chrome/Stainless.
Perhaps sumtin' like a T-28. Id really like a GT Wastegate, but I dont know yet if their only functional for certain degrees of power or not.
I dont want to use a Turbo Manifold tho, cus I like how the Headers look.
Im just gonna go the old fashioned way and use a J-Pipe.
Im never ever gonna pay 3-4K bucks for a Turbo kit.
Aside from buying the Turbo and IC itself, you can build one for 100 bucks.
RMR doesn't make a header, you're thinking kamikaze. The fact you had to cut the downpipe means it doesn't fit, its not meant for our engine. This is why I said its not better, a 4-2-1 header for a mirage cannot be compared to a 4-1 header made for the lancer, it'd be like saying a civic 4-2-1 header will make more power than an integra 4-1 header, its apples and oranges.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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joberk3, you wouldn't notice any loss of low end torque with just some muffler.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
RMR doesn't make a header, you're thinking kamikaze. The fact you had to cut the downpipe means it doesn't fit, its not meant for our engine. This is why I said its not better, a 4-2-1 header for a mirage cannot be compared to a 4-1 header made for the lancer, it'd be like saying a civic 4-2-1 header will make more power than an integra 4-1 header, its apples and oranges.
CityKnight had to get a custom downpipe to make this header fit. The upper portion of the header fits, but the second part, the downpipe, did not.
It's hard to say which header is better, 4-1 or 4-2-1? RPW has done some research and their conclusion was 4-1 with long runners is better, and that's what they sell.

City knight, how about a Dyno!!!
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gregivq
joberk3, you wouldn't notice any loss of low end torque with just some muffler.
oh ok cuz i swore i saw someone on here say that and i was confused. thanks
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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There is no way. I mean you still have a catalic converter in your exhaust manifold and then one under the car and a resonator. I barely noticed torque loss with a kamikaze header.
Maybe someone can correct me.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by twisty1251
NO.

if you are gonna go custom you should do your homework. There is a lot more involved than you think.
YES.
Work has nothing to do with the fact that necessary parts can be attained for a 100 bucks.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joberk3
along with this, i like the deep sound from my muffler but how can i make it louder? with a resonator? and how does one go along with the muffler?
Dont get a louder muffler... Thats basically a simulation of the sound of power, and anyone who hears it will know. That might be called Ricey.
Just some advice. If ya still want to, I hear the Tanabe Racing Medallion is loud as ****. Look into that.

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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CityKnight
YES.
Work has nothing to do with the fact that necessary parts can be attained for a 100 bucks.
wait i'm confused. do you work at a shop?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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I highly doubt you'll get the parts needed for a turbo for 100$, unless you are 1. getting stolen parts, 2. very used parts or 3. the worst parts ever imaginable, and I wouldn't any of the 3. Oh and joberk3 if you want a louder exhaust you have few options, get a header, get a testpipe and/or get a new muffler. A resonator will do the exact opposite and will make the car quieter since it basically adds a chamber for the sound to resonate (surprise surprise) in.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by joberk3
along with this, i like the deep sound from my muffler but how can i make it louder? with a resonator? and how does one go along with the muffler?
a resonator will usually quite it down a bit. i'm going a muffler with 2.25 back to the catalytic converter and a large resonator to prevent it from sounding obnoxious. If you want louder you'll have to add more components like larger piping back to the car or removing your cat. if you plan on doing a header that will add noise as well. I would not recommend removing your cat though
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
RMR doesn't make a header, you're thinking kamikaze. The fact you had to cut the downpipe means it doesn't fit, its not meant for our engine. This is why I said its not better, a 4-2-1 header for a mirage cannot be compared to a 4-1 header made for the lancer, it'd be like saying a civic 4-2-1 header will make more power than an integra 4-1 header, its apples and oranges.
Its more like Green Apples to Red Apples cus their practically the same engine.
Tho I see what youre getting at sorta, and thanks for correcting me about the Kamikazi.
However, I disagree to a degree.
The downpipe had to be made to fit. True. The Header however, Fits Perfectly without question (cus its the same head).
A Civic and an Integras engines are not alike, so thats not a thorogh example or comparison.
Thats why Civics do swaps for Integra engines.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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wait i'm confused. do you work at a shop?
No but I have friends that own shops and/or work at them, therfore I have access to lifts and pipe benders, etc.
Of coarse I do pay them, but still I can ask for favors so as not to spend 4000.
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