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Definately possible. Just look at what Flynt, over at MPF, has done with his g93.
That thing is built to the hilt and it puts down over 400whp. Add alittle displacement to the mix and you could easily do the same.
That thing is built to the hilt and it puts down over 400whp. Add alittle displacement to the mix and you could easily do the same.
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so buy an evo
If you have $ and like lancers. seems like the logical thing to me. Or go turbo if your just looking for a project, you will have much better luck and less $ if you go that route.
I highly doubt this is possible especially if the car is a daily driver. Here's the problem, Mitsubishi motors are not made for NA like hondas are. They cannot rev as high as hondas (needed for an NA 4-banger) and they simply are not as strong as hondas (talking about the 4G94 here). You're going to need literally every NA mod ever made and probably some custom stuff too. Since you want nitrous you'll need rods which are pricey. Here's the way I see it,
RPW header ~500$ Who with a fab shop is gonna buy a header?
Bored intake manifold 300$ Probably be having one fabbed or stock ported in shop
RPW Quad throttle bodies 1000$? Good idead but probably not gonna make the list
RPW stage 4 cam 600$
P & P head 1000$
Rods 800$ Machine shop job.
High compression 11.0:1-12.0:1 800$
Exhaust 500$ Alot cheaper
Full standalone ECU 1000$
Fuel mods 500$
High quality nitrous kit (meaning at the very least wet kit maybe even direct injection) 1000$ Deffinatly doin direct injection
With all this you'll end up with a car that is not streetable, it'll need race gas and it'll idle like crap if it even idles. I'm sorry but you bought the wrong car if you want NA, go get a honda if that's your plan.[/QUOT
I want to note the shop is my uncles, labor is free as long as I help and dont rush them for time. Price of steel is crazy right now but I think alot of my stuff will still be cheaper to make. I deffinatly see your point about putting this much money into it though. I may have to rethink this. I still have my 90 celica that I could swap a 3sgte into. Also have a 93 civic lx. Lancer is sexy as hell though.
RPW header ~500$ Who with a fab shop is gonna buy a header?
Bored intake manifold 300$ Probably be having one fabbed or stock ported in shop
RPW Quad throttle bodies 1000$? Good idead but probably not gonna make the list
RPW stage 4 cam 600$
P & P head 1000$
Rods 800$ Machine shop job.
High compression 11.0:1-12.0:1 800$
Exhaust 500$ Alot cheaper
Full standalone ECU 1000$
Fuel mods 500$
High quality nitrous kit (meaning at the very least wet kit maybe even direct injection) 1000$ Deffinatly doin direct injection
With all this you'll end up with a car that is not streetable, it'll need race gas and it'll idle like crap if it even idles. I'm sorry but you bought the wrong car if you want NA, go get a honda if that's your plan.[/QUOT
I want to note the shop is my uncles, labor is free as long as I help and dont rush them for time. Price of steel is crazy right now but I think alot of my stuff will still be cheaper to make. I deffinatly see your point about putting this much money into it though. I may have to rethink this. I still have my 90 celica that I could swap a 3sgte into. Also have a 93 civic lx. Lancer is sexy as hell though.
If you have $ and like lancers. seems like the logical thing to me. Or go turbo if your just looking for a project, you will have much better luck and less $ if you go that route.
Last edited by jmoz; Aug 14, 2007 at 03:45 PM.
I doubt 250, even with NOS. those Puerto Rico boys is crazy and if they best they've got is 178 then we're in trouble
The multi TBs ahve been discussed for years and I don't know anyone who's running them successfully on a Mitsu (I'd be interested to see it, though). As mentioned, Mitsu doesn't build for NA tuners and the G94 wasn't even really built to be turbo'd; with most of the cars I race against, if you're at 7PSI intercooled, then you have a major problem somewhere. 7PSI is near the top of what these engines will take.
My suggestion: read this forum before you buy -anything- Chances are you'll realize that you're asking more of this car than it can give.
It's the decision I've come to and I'll be buying another car to autocross when I'm done with school in 2009. It's fun for now but I am not in any way, shape or form competitive.
If you do decide to do it then please back everything up with dyno numbers. People around here will hound you to death if you don't produce sheets.. and when you do they'll tell you why your numbers are skewed to read too high
The multi TBs ahve been discussed for years and I don't know anyone who's running them successfully on a Mitsu (I'd be interested to see it, though). As mentioned, Mitsu doesn't build for NA tuners and the G94 wasn't even really built to be turbo'd; with most of the cars I race against, if you're at 7PSI intercooled, then you have a major problem somewhere. 7PSI is near the top of what these engines will take.My suggestion: read this forum before you buy -anything- Chances are you'll realize that you're asking more of this car than it can give.
It's the decision I've come to and I'll be buying another car to autocross when I'm done with school in 2009. It's fun for now but I am not in any way, shape or form competitive.
If you do decide to do it then please back everything up with dyno numbers. People around here will hound you to death if you don't produce sheets.. and when you do they'll tell you why your numbers are skewed to read too high
haha another thing that is similar between here and mpf.
again I have to agree and just reiterate. Build the car to just have fun with. its a lot more rewarding than trying to build it to win races.
again I have to agree and just reiterate. Build the car to just have fun with. its a lot more rewarding than trying to build it to win races.
Don't listen to the "ney sayers" to do something different is sublime.
As for research, you can get 11.5:1 forged pistons from accolade for $792.10
with NOS I would go with ZEX you can get wet for 529.95, race for 702.61, and direct port for 754.32.
With that much power I would also go with Unorthodox Racing Feramic puck clutch (515.57 for sprung hub and 429.47 for solid hub) and its aluminum flywheel (491.91).
If you did want to go with a duel throttle body set up RPW.com.au makes one but as far as I know no one is importing it.
As for research, you can get 11.5:1 forged pistons from accolade for $792.10
with NOS I would go with ZEX you can get wet for 529.95, race for 702.61, and direct port for 754.32.
With that much power I would also go with Unorthodox Racing Feramic puck clutch (515.57 for sprung hub and 429.47 for solid hub) and its aluminum flywheel (491.91).
If you did want to go with a duel throttle body set up RPW.com.au makes one but as far as I know no one is importing it.
Because to get the dual TB to work on our cars you need to step up to standalone- I don't think they ever got the side-by-side twin TB to work and they went back to one TB on either end of the IM plenum.
Your NOS advice is ill-conceived. 50 shots have been known to wreck these motors.
Just adding high comp pistons will net less than 10 HP. You need all the other "supporting mods" to get a noticable difference out of them.
Nay-sayers? Or realists?
Check my registry- I've been doing "different" since day 1 and I realized pretty quickly that different just means "more money for less power." I've enjoyed the car, still am, but I have no delusions that they're ever going to be much more than grocery-getters because it's sooo expensive to add power.
I encourage you to prove me wrong.
Your NOS advice is ill-conceived. 50 shots have been known to wreck these motors.
Just adding high comp pistons will net less than 10 HP. You need all the other "supporting mods" to get a noticable difference out of them.
Nay-sayers? Or realists?
Check my registry- I've been doing "different" since day 1 and I realized pretty quickly that different just means "more money for less power." I've enjoyed the car, still am, but I have no delusions that they're ever going to be much more than grocery-getters because it's sooo expensive to add power.
I encourage you to prove me wrong.


