At the Track Lancer De with pulley Against Lancer GTS Stock Both Manual
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but imo the benefits of having rear disk brakes would be distance travelled before a complete stop would be reduced for certain feets less than having drums in the rear. Believe me it sucks having drums. Suspension: stiffer ride= more control on curves, and brakes the same thing as the rear disk brakes, quicker stops.I'm planning on making a rear disk brake swap from an evo as some guys here in Puerto Rico did to their Ghymkana GTS, that swapped all the braking system with the one that the evo IX has.
Anyone, correct me if I was wrong on anything.
Last edited by kiioichy_EvoIII; Sep 10, 2007 at 10:29 AM.
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As I have discussed on another thread (some would probably say "ad nauseum") stopping distance on a single stop is limited by tires, not brakes. So, if your goal in life is to be able to stop the car in less distance for a single stop, forget about upgrading the brakes and get bigger wheels/tires.
The big advantage of the discs over drums is that disc brakes dissipate heat much more effectively than drums. So, the GTS will have a big advantage over the DE under conditions of repeated, demanding stops that occur on a track.
The advantages of the GTS over the ES in terms of braking are more subtle. Over a single stop, the advantage of the GTS will be modest and related only to the difference in contact patch from the slightly wider tires. However, the bigger discs of the GTS will dissipate heat more effectively than the smaller discs of the ES, resulting in more fade resistance that might show up on a track.
The big advantage of the discs over drums is that disc brakes dissipate heat much more effectively than drums. So, the GTS will have a big advantage over the DE under conditions of repeated, demanding stops that occur on a track.
The advantages of the GTS over the ES in terms of braking are more subtle. Over a single stop, the advantage of the GTS will be modest and related only to the difference in contact patch from the slightly wider tires. However, the bigger discs of the GTS will dissipate heat more effectively than the smaller discs of the ES, resulting in more fade resistance that might show up on a track.
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P.S. During the first few laps on a track, the weight advantage of the DE might allow it to keep up with a GTS, which has the suspension/handling advantage. However, it shouldn't be long before the DE brakes become a serious liability. Over 20 or so laps at a place like Summit Point or Watkins Glen, the GTS should do much better than the DE.
As I have discussed on another thread (some would probably say "ad nauseum") stopping distance on a single stop is limited by tires, not brakes. So, if your goal in life is to be able to stop the car in less distance for a single stop, forget about upgrading the brakes and get bigger wheels/tires.
The big advantage of the discs over drums is that disc brakes dissipate heat much more effectively than drums. So, the GTS will have a big advantage over the DE under conditions of repeated, demanding stops that occur on a track.
The advantages of the GTS over the ES in terms of braking are more subtle. Over a single stop, the advantage of the GTS will be modest and related only to the difference in contact patch from the slightly wider tires. However, the bigger discs of the GTS will dissipate heat more effectively than the smaller discs of the ES, resulting in more fade resistance that might show up on a track.
The big advantage of the discs over drums is that disc brakes dissipate heat much more effectively than drums. So, the GTS will have a big advantage over the DE under conditions of repeated, demanding stops that occur on a track.
The advantages of the GTS over the ES in terms of braking are more subtle. Over a single stop, the advantage of the GTS will be modest and related only to the difference in contact patch from the slightly wider tires. However, the bigger discs of the GTS will dissipate heat more effectively than the smaller discs of the ES, resulting in more fade resistance that might show up on a track.
Nice to have some new knowledge entering the Lancer ranks.
WADAD
To the original poster...
Without the slips we cannot truly tell what factors may have played into your WINS.
If the GTS drivers stood there and burned their tires off the line being too agressive it would show up in the 60 foot times and we could really see some differences.
If this trend does hold true of all the DE's then it would prove my point that 1/4 mile wise the DE or ES would be a better car to buy to modify for that purpose.
Trackwise though I like the information contributed above. I never thought about that.
WADAD
Without the slips we cannot truly tell what factors may have played into your WINS.
If the GTS drivers stood there and burned their tires off the line being too agressive it would show up in the 60 foot times and we could really see some differences.
If this trend does hold true of all the DE's then it would prove my point that 1/4 mile wise the DE or ES would be a better car to buy to modify for that purpose.
Trackwise though I like the information contributed above. I never thought about that.
WADAD
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From: Fajardo - Puerto Rico
what significant drag does the gts body kit have on the car and its drag?
does the Gts come with a LSD?
hey for the rear disc breaks lets look for a crash 08 lancer at a juckyard and buy it and do the switch !!!
i think is more likely to be more agresive in mods with a ES or DE than with a GTS! my 2 cents
does the Gts come with a LSD?
hey for the rear disc breaks lets look for a crash 08 lancer at a juckyard and buy it and do the switch !!!
i think is more likely to be more agresive in mods with a ES or DE than with a GTS! my 2 cents
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