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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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and jamie comes out of left field and makes the save!!!! LOL
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie@WORKS
Now, now... While we are getting parts going on the EVO, we're still focused on the Lancer as well. I'd say we're "mostly" working on the SPEED World Challenge car, which happens to be a Lancer

We've never been known for rapid development (although it does occur from time to time), but it'll be worth the wait.
Sorry. Wasn't trying to be overly harsh against you guys.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:35 AM
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Wouldnt the air be sucked through the CAI into the engine long before it could conduct any heat from the manifold to warm it up. If anything, you would think the airflow would cool down the stock manifold? Does this make sense?
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothdrJay
Wouldnt the air be sucked through the CAI into the engine long before it could conduct any heat from the manifold to warm it up. If anything, you would think the airflow would cool down the stock manifold? Does this make sense?
It makes sense, but I don't think it's what happens. The IM is hot, and it's bolted to a hot motor. The intake air just isn't enough to cool it down.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothdrJay
Wouldnt the air be sucked through the CAI into the engine long before it could conduct any heat from the manifold to warm it up. If anything, you would think the airflow would cool down the stock manifold? Does this make sense?
You would be suprised! The throttle body can raise the air temp as it passes by. Its just a little but it does happen.

There really isnt a whole lot of "porting" you can do on a plastic MF.

I dont know about the whole ceramic issue. It sounds good in theory. If it was in the back of the engine bay it might be more of an issue, but up front it really is getting a lot of air. Plastic you can touch without frying your hand right away. Put a sheetmetal IM on there and see what happens. You could cook an egg on it!

As for building a custom IM, It is a pain for newer cars! We (my friends and I) did a custom one on a 05 Mazda 3! There are so many sensors taking readings from the TB and IM for temp, pressure, and moisture! Any one not reading what it is supposed to can cause the car to crap the bed!

I know it doesnt look great like an intake plenum on old cars, but I'm with Blacksheep on this one! As long as it functions and is not really holding the car back, don't mess with it!

There are other ways to get crazy low intake temps!
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RC2099
I know it doesnt look great like an intake plenum on old cars, but I'm with Blacksheep on this one! As long as it functions and is not really holding the car back, don't mess with it!

There are other ways to get crazy low intake temps!
Exactly. If someone is THAT worried about low intake temps, they can look into a CryO2 system or something. Or reroute their A/C into the intake (notice - the A/C part was a joke. Do not try it.)
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Exactly. If someone is THAT worried about low intake temps, they can look into a CryO2 system or something. Or reroute their A/C into the intake (notice - the A/C part was a joke. Do not try it.)
OMG feel free to delete this if you think some one is going to do it; and I can't believe I am really going to post this.

I saw, with my own eye, an auto A/C tech drain and charge his auto A/C system with residential grade freon. It is a heaver grade, removes much more heat, and gets much colder in the condensation core. Then he did a throttle body by pass and routed his A/C lines throught the TB. It was 97 deg out side and the intake temp in the IM was 58 deg. We used a OBD II scanner to get actual temps!

It was freaking crazy!

Please DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!!!!

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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RC2099
OMG feel free to delete this if you think some one is going to do it; and I can't believe I am really going to post this.

I saw, with my own eye, an auto A/C tech drain and charge his auto A/C system with residential grade freon. It is a heaver grade, removes much more heat, and gets much colder in the condensation core. Then he did a throttle body by pass and routed his A/C lines throught the TB. It was 97 deg out side and the intake temp in the IM was 58 deg. We used a OBD II scanner to get actual temps!

It was freaking crazy!

Please DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!!!!
Now THAT'S an idea. As said, not safe for home use, but if you're trained in HVAC work, it'd be an exciting project!
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