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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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I just ordered a Greddy Ti-c, 450CAD after tax, so damn expensive for just a muffler, anywayz, is it kinda dumb to put a loud exhaust on a CVT vehcile, cuz u know CVT has no shift changing (unless we use the stupid paddle shift)

and 1more thing, it is very in/unsmooth while downshift by the CVT paddle shift, (@3000-4000rpm) like the car would push my back

with the standard automatic transmission u switch to 2nd gear they would be run better in the corner, but CVT i feel no difference, 2,3,4 any shift turn in the corner is like the same

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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ehhhh in my opinion you should have waited for the Injen SES exhaust system all new piping and new cat converter
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sofla GTS
ehhhh in my opinion you should have waited for the Injen SES exhaust system all new piping and new cat converter
when does this come out and how much?

and i dont think its a bad idea to put a muffler on..i orderd an HKS one to put on there untill i get done with my body work then replace the entire exhaust paid 260 with a 3.2 in outlet


and i too also have those jerks when downshifting..i learned if u let it get down to about 2 revs in each gear the jerk wont be as hard..but if u downshift in a higher rev then its harder
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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No you dont get what i mean
Okay, normal Automatic/Manual have shifting

like...
1st gear Voommm.... 2nd gear....Vooomm....3rd gear....Vooooommm......

CVT is like a plain line

VooooooommmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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or you can let go of the clutch slower to prevent the car from jerking when downshifting. also you could press on the gas to match RPM for a smooth ride (this is alot harder... you gotta match the RPM pretty damn close... so get used to your car and what RPM its at at what speeds etc)
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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does this jerking lower the life of the cvt transmission
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by stefan.bounket
or you can let go of the clutch slower to prevent the car from jerking when downshifting.
There is no clutch in a CVT. You might as well let the car downshift itself, because it will pretty much jerk no matter how low in the RPM band you try to downshift.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by REDGTS
I just ordered a Greddy Ti-c, 450CAD after tax, so damn expensive for just a muffler, anywayz, is it kinda dumb to put a loud exhaust on a CVT vehcile, cuz u know CVT has no shift changing (unless we use the stupid paddle shift)
Only if you're such a ricer that your only concern about an exhaust is it making a "vroom" noise.

Seriously, if you're asking a question like this, you shouldn't be modifying the car anyways. You don't buy an exhaust for the noise. You're supposed to be buying it for the performance gains.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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CVT is faster at a full engine to Transmission lockup vs. an automatic. in a sense, to drive the point home further. This is to wrap you head around the theory not exactly what the car does.

But say you were driving an auto tranny on the highway at 100 km per hour and you put the car in neutral and took your foot on the gas, and let the needle float down to 1000 RPM, if you were to put the car in to D again, you car will look at the current speed, and then apply thottle to bring the car into the proper RPM range and then engage with the gear gradually the same way you would kinda gear match with a manual transmission. its a very soft gradual process.

The same thing happens when you turn off over drive, for me their is a delay on my mazda auto transmission car for a half second while it switches from 4th to 3rd.

When a CVT, its a little bit of a different process with how it A) selects the gear B) and the wait time or lack their off for engaging that gear fully (since technically there is no gear) its a pulley system.

I really like the swift shifting of the CVT, to be honest, the shift can be set to be even more quicker, but if you watch some of the videos on youtube of the project manager talking about the CVT, you will see they had to program some auto tranny behaviours into the tranny so you get certain types of lurches and what not.

lol sorry if that example sounds complicated I just dont have the words to explain it right, I am currently getting yelled at by my girlfriend for something and trying to block her out

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does this jerking lower the life of the cvt transmission
no, from what i heard, a CVT has protections in it, you cant break it no matter how much you shift it. The only thing that can kill the tranny is heat. heat will cause smaller increases and decreases in metals in the tranny. Excessive heat and hard use of the Tranny I beleive is what you would have to worry about.

But your not driving with 15psi of boost and doing a rally track, lol

from what i have heard that if you have boost, you can only run the car in Manual CVT mode. The one underground group I spoke to is that Auto Mode is disabled.

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I just ordered a Greddy Ti-c, 450CAD after tax, so damn expensive for just a muffler, anywayz, is it kinda dumb to put a loud exhaust on a CVT vehcile, cuz u know CVT has no shift changing (unless we use the stupid paddle shift)

and 1more thing, it is very in/unsmooth while downshift by the CVT paddle shift, (@3000-4000rpm) like the car would push my back

with the standard automatic transmission u switch to 2nd gear they would be run better in the corner, but CVT i feel no difference, 2,3,4 any shift turn in the corner is like the same
REDGTS did the UPS mafia rip u off with like 150 dollars duty and tax?
I have a question, (i sent you a PM)

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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Only if you're such a ricer that your only concern about an exhaust is it making a "vroom" noise.

Seriously, if you're asking a question like this, you shouldn't be modifying the car anyways. You don't buy an exhaust for the noise. You're supposed to be buying it for the performance gains.
muahhahaaa, P-E-R-F-O-R-M-A-N-C-E XD

hey dude, then you should just go buy a Dodge Caliber SRT4, $23000 you can get a 285HP turbo engine, 19inch rims and 6 speed manual and sport tuned suspension and stuff

i like the sound and the outlooking of Greddy ti-c , thats why i ordered it, do you really believe it can make your car goes much faster? let say i will buy the K&N SRI too , total add 10HP more to it , so what?! there are still ton of the cars faster than our Lancer on the street.

My mum's V6 camry or my Dad's Acura 3.2TL also faster than our MIVEC engine. If you are like those Toyoto Echo/Vitz owners who could afford to throw couple thousand dollars on a low value/class vehcile, then go ahead, to be honest 70%+ people on this forum, their budget is like btw 1000-2000 on modding, why do we care about that little 10-20horsepower, we only enjoy the progress on modding car, and that tiny little bit difference at the endup result

Let me teach you how to modify your 08 Lancer, the first thing you need to do on it is "weight loss" , go get some basic car modding knowlege, Professional technician would tell you modding a vehicle should start from the feet(tires/brakes)-> Legs(Suspension)->Body(Engine)->Brain(electronic parts like the chips).

I can say , we are all Ricers on this 08 (ES,SE,GTS) forum, especially so many of those who make their front bumper look like EVOX

Im not trying to be rude, but is this forum not welcome Ricer to disuss things together?

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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by REDGTS
muahhahaaa, P-E-R-F-O-R-M-A-N-C-E XD

hey dude, then you should just go buy a Dodge Caliber SRT4, $23000 you can get a 285HP turbo engine, 19inch rims and 6 speed manual and sport tuned suspension and stuff

i like the sound and the outlooking of Greddy ti-c , thats why i ordered it, do you really believe it can make your car goes much faster? let say i will buy the K&N SRI too , total add 10HP more to it , so what?! there are still ton of the cars faster than our Lancer on the street.

My mum's V6 camry or my Dad's Acura 3.2TL also faster than our MIVEC engine. If you are like those Toyoto Echo/Vitz owners who could afford to throw couple thousand dollars on a low value/class vehcile, then go ahead, to be honest 70%+ people on this forum, their budget is like btw 1000-2000 on modding, why do we care about that little 10-20horsepower, we only enjoy the progress on modding car, and that tiny little bit difference at the endup result

Let me teach you how to modify your 08 Lancer, the first thing you need to do on it is "weight loss" , go get some basic car modding knowlege, Professional technician would tell you modding a vehicle should start from the feet(tires/brakes)-> Legs(Suspension)->Body(Engine)->Brain(electronic parts like the chips).

I can say , we are all Ricers on this 08 (ES,SE,GTS) forum, especially so many of those who make their front bumper look like EVOX

Im not trying to be rude, but is this forum not welcome Ricer to disuss things together?

Hey not me my car is sToCk
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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EvoSoul, nah, i ordered the Greddy exhaust at Vancouver Local Greddy Dealership

Price is 395, after tax is 447CAD, but im on the waiting list, next shippment will have 40 pieces , but 30 have reserved, only 10left, so i gotta wait till at least end of March, sigh.......

US selling 330USD, but the shipping+ custom charge and tax would worth about 400 something too, shipping is like 50-70, and i dont know how to custom works on buyiny things from foreign

i hate to pay the high tax.....a thing cost 400 bucks , 50 for tax, such a joke
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by REDGTS
muahhahaaa, P-E-R-F-O-R-M-A-N-C-E XD

hey dude, then you should just go buy a Dodge Caliber SRT4, $23000 you can get a 285HP turbo engine, 19inch rims and 6 speed manual and sport tuned suspension and stuff

i like the sound and the outlooking of Greddy ti-c , thats why i ordered it, do you really believe it can make your car goes much faster? let say i will buy the K&N SRI too , total add 10HP more to it , so what?! there are still ton of the cars faster than our Lancer on the street.

My mum's V6 camry or my Dad's Acura 3.2TL also faster than our MIVEC engine. If you are like those Toyoto Echo/Vitz owners who could afford to throw couple thousand dollars on a low value/class vehcile, then go ahead, to be honest 70%+ people on this forum, their budget is like btw 1000-2000 on modding, why do we care about that little 10-20horsepower, we only enjoy the progress on modding car, and that tiny little bit difference at the endup result

Let me teach you how to modify your 08 Lancer, the first thing you need to do on it is "weight loss" , go get some basic car modding knowlege, Professional technician would tell you modding a vehicle should start from the feet(tires/brakes)-> Legs(Suspension)->Body(Engine)->Brain(electronic parts like the chips).

I can say , we are all Ricers on this 08 (ES,SE,GTS) forum, especially so many of those who make their front bumper look like EVOX

Im not trying to be rude, but is this forum not welcome Ricer to disuss things together?
And I'd buy a Caliber why? If I wanted a faster car, I would have bought one. I knew exactly what I was getting.

You don't have to teach me a thing. I'm aware how cars and modification work. I'm also aware that people who buy exhausts "because they're loud" are ricers.

Slapping a little paint on the front bumper is a bit different from replacing a drivetrain part for noise...

Yes, you're welcome to discuss ricer things. Just don't get sand in your **** when I say it's a ricer thing.

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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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from what i have heard that if you have boost, you can only run the car in Manual CVT mode. The one underground group I spoke to is that Auto Mode is disabled.


If I am understanding you correctly, the CVT will detect the extra power and wont let you drive in auto mode only sport mode?
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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If I am understanding you correctly, the CVT will detect the extra power and wont let you drive in auto mode only sport mode?
thats not true. if the extra power is detected going to sport mode would depend on the programming..when the turbo is installed the CVT is going to have to be reprogrammed anyway i would think
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