I see a lot of BULL**** and no evidence to back any claims... an increase of +34hp with just an exhaust and intake????

To the thread initiator of this pathetic post, for nice performance and great selection of tuning parts you chose the wrong car and now your all upset.

 

I'm not saying anything about STKR. Nothing at all. I think that should speak volumes.

HOWEVER... what is a Honda owner doing in a Lancer forum? Answer me that. In addition, I think that Honda owners shouldn't be throwing bricks while living in glass houses as far as performance is concerned.

Granted, the Civic has many more performance parts than the Lancer, but, realize this... the Civic used the same basic layout internally for several years, plenty of time for an aftermarket to spring up.

The Lancer was released late last year. Therefore there needs to be patience for the market to kick up.

And, the new Civic has been out longer than the Lancer, and has about the same amount of performance parts... I wonder why that is if the Civic is a better medium for performance... hmmm....

 

You need to watch yourself with comments like that. Do you know how many people don't own a Lancer on this board of any sort? What's not to say he's not an adamant fan of the Evo? In essence this is a warning. I hope you understand.

 

Sorry, I see your point. But... I'm sorry, it just seems that whenever I see a owner of a competitor import slamming the Lancer (which he may never have even driven, much less looked into performance parts for) by inferring it is not a potential performance platform, it kind of ticks me off.

I've seen enough reviews of this car saying "It's not an Evo" to make me sick. It's not an Evo. It's not supposed to be an Evo, so, those people who just look at the stats of both deserve a little slamming themselves. I take great pride in having a unique and great little car that has the room to grow, and potential to be a street demon. And it offends me to see someone knock it without reason because some poor guy is looking for direction in how to make it what he wants it to be.

 

First of all, I corrected my post that said I was running 154 at the wheels a long time before Evosoul let his mouth loose. It was supposed to be 134, but happened so the mistake was made. Why this caused such an uproar is actually funny. Second, It's not like there aren't other ways of getting your car tuned better than just throwing an exhaust and intake on it. If Raul is correct and these Lancer's run 103 at the wheels then I only got 31 horsepower with the CAintake, exhaust and fuel upgrades I had in the car when we ran the dyno. How you drive your car and how you take car of it will determine a lot also. What's really funny is that all the HONDA car clubs here in Jacksonville are on the internet now and almost every car makes the claim that their intake gets them 30hp and their exhaust gives them 50hp.

 

I chose this car because you don't see one every 5 seconds like the Civic. If I want to be able to compete with the Evos and beat them, I am going to need a DOHC upgrade. That was why I started this thread. I wasn't upset except for the fact that Mitsubishi doesn't offer much consolation in the order of parts for this thing. Too bad I can't open any car magazine and find 50 pages of stuff like the Civic. Too bad.

 

Cost you more to make your car even close to being evo fast as it would cost to buy one. Then your stuck with a high hp econo box with a crappy suspension setup. No matter how much money you dump into it, it's still a lancer and will never be as good as an evo



Mitsu doesn't have high performance parts for sale from the factory in the US



Of course there is gonna be more civics and civic parts The civic has been out waay longer. There are more civics built. More people like building civics up. The lancer has only been here a few months. Not many on the road. Not much demand for parts. SITTING HERE *****ING WILL DO YOU NO GOOD. If YOU want parts YOU have to ask the manufacturers. If they see there is a demand they will make it. Why would they make parts with a low demand? All they care about is making a profit.

 

tapper brings up good points and the fact that an FWD drive car will never handle as well as an AWD drive one, especially at high speeds around corners, and even with the addition of an LSD.

 

And how about chassis stiffness? That's the single most important point in a good handling car. US Lancer chassis is **** compared to an Evo.

No way you'll EVER make a US Lancer as good as an EVO.

You're more than willing to try though :-)

K.

 

I am inclined to agree with this one. Engine wise you can/could make a Lancer more powerful than a STOCK Evolution(V-VII) that would probably cost you I'd say $8000 USD(this includes DOHC conversion 320BHP output). Suspension wise again you can/could make a Lancer comparable to the Evolution; however, this would require you to get preformance Coil-overs, custom anti-sway bars and then you'd need STBs probably $2500 USD. With all that power in the engine you'd probably need better axles and a new gearbox with better gear ratios $5000 USD. Even with all this work done the Lancer would still be disadvantaged in comparison due to its FWD drivetrain, although with all that work the Lancer would probably be pretty close with the Evolution(still stock).

 

Then you get Evos with suspension mods alone that'll eat up a super modded Lancer. With that, I agree with the whole money thing, if you're going to spend that much money (I don't want to hear about the joys of tuning, or some level of uniqueness) just save and buy a true performance vehicle.

 

PJAL, could you NOT do such a great job moderating so I could fight my own battles!

 

a lancer will never be an evo... everyone knows that.... the evo is too amazing.... but anyways... being only 17... i could never afford a evo... let alone pay off the insurance... i paid 14900 for my lancer... and being a 17 year old... i cant be any happier... i would love to have an evo... but thats totally out of my price range... also... if i had an evo... i would look like some spoiled kid which is something i would not want on my rep... and even if my lancer will never be as fast or great at cornering as the evo... it is my car and... truthfully, anyone's car is worth more to them then anything else they could possible own... well that is my thought....




-wishing i had a evo.... but happy with a lancer...

 

I am holding off until the Evo, but what you type makes sense. The Lancer is still a good car, and decent bang for your buck. I would be proud to own it, as you obviously are. You know it's not an Evo, just like I know my soon to have Evo is not a Porsche. Doesn't mean you can't be happy, and understand your cars limitations.

Sounds like you got your head screwed on straight.

BTW, my local Mitsu dealer(whom I talked to today again), says he will do custom mods(RMR, RRM, Injen, suspension, etc) right off the lot. I was pretty surprised, because I can literally order the car from him with the mods(and apparently get a decent warantee covering them). He promises 340+hp(or more if I like) after the mods, and at a decent cost. He is predicting stock 276hp, 5spd with the traction control at MSRP around $29k. Just thought I'd pass it along. He also says that there DEFINATELY will be limited availabity(as most know) at least for the first few months.

 

yellow_lancer. i wish everyone 17 years old thought like u. u have a decent car that u can learn to push your self to the limits and the cars limit. and u will appreciate an evo(if u ever get one) or other rally/race based cars like it. it has taken me 3 years of daily driving and 6 months of actual racing to learn my limits and my cars limits(my limits excede my cars current setup. thats why its going to break soon) as for this dohc thing. i didnt really read everyones posts(thanks to mister 6-pack of cl smooth) but the lancer is sohc correct? my feeling is that if u change the motor that much it is no longer a lancer. mod the lancer to what the engine can take. when u actually start changing the engine it is no longer a lancer. besides if u really wanted a 1/4 mile car then u would have gotten some other car.

drunk and signing out