proksy

if you add this kit to your intercooler, you'll definitely be upping the hp a lot more i would think. so long as you upgrade your engine as well, i think you'll be fine. you should be doing that anyway if you are going turbo/intercooled. as far as it being safe, i can't really see the dangers like using n2o.

i'm just looking to add this on as i try to make a formidable NA lancer. depending on my financial situation, i should start adding more upgrades within a month, starting with exhuast, and most likely followed by this.

 

add that C02 kit + that kit that cools down your fuel as well, you're engine should scream with excitement... should be so dense in there you could cut it with a knife!

 

hey what do you guys think about running this on a stock lancer with intake and exhaust? Is it bad for the engine. Let me know whats up. i got some money to blow.
Hows this stuff work like NOS just hit a button and GO... Or what let me know as much as you know.
Whats this kit are these differences between these 2 kits.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2431951550
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2431951566
thanks
Nick

 

nitrohead

it works like nos only in the sense you hit a button to activate it. i described as best as i could figure out how it work on the first two pages. read there and you'll find your answers.

as for ebay, one is the co2 kit, the other is the intake kit. you'd need both to run on your intake.

 

Yeah...that way you can REALLY block crossflow of air.

DEI is a legitimate company (who makes good thermal transfer, reflection and wraps) and I'm sure the intake cooling works, but honestly I can't see the potential for significant gains unless your car is constantly heat soaked.

The reason you spray an intercooler is because compression creates heat. Without FI or heatsoak I (personally) think the benefits of having a cool intake charge are very limited. For $500 you might as well start to think about investing in a wet shot (not like that, you perv). And to hear ME pushing nitrous is like hearing Saddam selling lollipops. It's not something you'll likely see again in your life time. Cost vs effectiveness certainly gives the upper hand to nitrous with proper additional fuel.

 

you make a good point hobie, but i see the cost vs effectiveness a bit differently.

this system shouldn't have anywhere near the amount of risk that nitrous does, and consequently, i wouldn't expect large gains from our small NA engines. however, when using nitrous, you're looking at a much greater extent of tuning to use it SAFELY (additional electronics, engine strengthening upgrades, and the cost of additional fuel burn). and in favor of this system, as you said dei is a legit company and the product won an award from SEMA which says something.

as interested as i am in the system (living in florida), i'll most likely hold off on picking one up till next spring, when it really starts getting hot again. i guess that is one more place where nitrous has it beat. it can be used year round, where this is really for only warm weather (NA) or year round on an intercooler mount.

 

Well, it all sounds like an interesting concept. I'm just by nature a skeptic...the air in that intake is moving pretty fast down the pipe, leaving not much time for a measurable volume of air to transfer a significant amount of heat. I was thinking about fitting a small tank in my fender and filing it up with some ice and let my cai breathe that in... But it'd be interesting to see how this fares.

 

A wet shot is much less risk than the dry shots everyone and their mother has blown pistons with. I don't really believe in nitrous on street cars, but I also think that for the money at least you'll get decent power with that route. I own several DEI products and I have no complaints. I've yet to heat wrap my manifold, but the quality of the wrap itself seems top notch, their silicone spray is great and their SS locking ties beat the pants off of plastic zip ties in applications where heat is generated. (Plus they look nice. )

I'm not skeptical of the company so much as the benefits. At that cost I think you'd end up being the gineau pig for the Lancer community. Hell, maybe it's the best thing since sliced bread, but I have my doubts.

 

Thank you for the sanity of your posts there, MOD!!! I was going crazy reading these posts about this device and how it was going to give them 15 hp. I didn't know who to jump on first...the guy about taping ice to the intercooler.....or the other guy talking about putting the device inside you intercooler.....FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE!!!!!!

 

Isn't that what I'm here for? Anything to keep mobius happy. He's good people.

 

inside the intercooler.....ya thats what I said

 

Easy there, slugger. All in good fun.

 

I know

 

I was horrified that someone might bring up that silly Ozone Injection jobby again...

This is a good idea in theory but in practice (by looking at the equipment in the photo) if that little teardrop shaped peice is the heat exchanger, it is not going to work very well. Why?

1) the exchanger does not have enough surface area to effectively lower the air temp of the incoming air stream. Heat exchangers (radiators, intercoolers, etc.) need large surface area to efficiently move heat to/from a gas, especially one moving at a high velocity.

2) if they are using CO2 to cool that item, it is going to frost over quite quickly in a humid environment, further reducing the heat flow (the ice will act as an insulator) and providing an obstruction to the airflow entering the motor. This is the reason that freezers have a defrost cycle.

I could go on but I would not want to be branded a 1,000,000 word plagurism posterchild =)

 

I would deffinately have to agree with you about the intake cooler. Now the intercooler sprayer is something I know for a fact works. I don't have a scanner, but if I did I would grab a dyno sheet from a turbo supra. The dyno chart showed a 43 hp gain between 2500-7000rpms, so I'll get it just because I know it is true. The liquid CO2 sprays on the intercooler effectively cooling a respectable volume of air, but the draw back is that you are losing your CO2, but hell, who cares you can get it fill much less than anything else....prolly cheaper than gas these days.