I'm dissapointed to find that nothing (besides turbo) helps raise horsepower. I wanna raise horsepower and wanna know everythign that will help to do so. so if you have any information taht will helps, i.e. parts, prices and places, drop a reply...thanks

 

you can raise power throught things as Intake, headers, exhuast, Cam shafts, cam gears, fuel injectors, new Ecu, etc.

 

by how much can i raise it....i read here:


http://www.importtuner.com/archives/...2_tech01.shtml

that if you put an intake, exhaust and offroad downpipe on the lancer, it will give it 8.3 horsepower....for 810 USD...think it's worth it?? how much will that other stuff raise it and how much will that cost?

 

well the question is do u think its worth it to you? to me it is i mean $810 for hp to the wheels is actualy a good deal. I mean my friend he paid liek $500 just on his exhaust from apexi thats 2/3 of what you pay and you get a intake and a down pipe. Also that stuff will cost alot but i think its worth it. it helps you reponse time on your car helps it breath better. Its all what you want IMHO

 

Well after those basic bolt ons, you've got an exhaust manifold (header (SINGULAR...NO V6's in Lancer's...personal gripe)). That'll free up more horsepower. Cam shafts and cam gears all the change the timing of the car affecting where and when you'll get power (nuts to not having DOHC) but will raise it as well by giving a more aggressive power band. I dunno about fuel injectors just yet 'til you slap on all the above mods with perhaps a remapped or piggyback ECU but you've also got a widened throttle body and a port n' polish available as well. Mind you, these mods will be more than just your intake and exhaust.

 

You can also bore and stroke your engine, port and polish it and get a throttle body if you want to go N/A othere then forced induction.

 

Feh...mentioned 'em all above 'cept the bore n' stroke. Albeit, 2.0 L is a good size but heck, 2.2 wouldn't be all that bad either. That's pretty much it as far as NA tuning goes except for the multiple throttle body route which is interesting but I don't know enough about it to give you an evaluation.

 

All this stuff will give you a even power band and a great response time with out lag, you can also help out with some better spark plugs and wires and some controllers like a apexi safc or something like like that (i dunno the name) and you have your self a powerful car without the help of a turbo.
You can also get high compression pistions and strengthen the engine and some pulleys too.

 

As for stand-alone ECU, people shouldn't be thinking about it until heavy duty mods and willing to spend nearly or over 1 grand for just the programmable ecu.

As for overboring the block, it can't happen. Mitsu has made the 4g94 the biggest bore possible for the 4g9x series engine block w/o the need to sleeve the cyl wall to reinfore it.

Don't know about stroking it. It's way longer than the 4g93 (redline at 6500 rpm). The more stroke, the more TQ at the sacrifice on top end RPM. Do you guys want a redline starting at 5500 rpm? That will kill me, especially going TC.

Bore the TB and port match it to the intake manifold.

Timing can be changed a bit but not a lot since it's a DIS. It depends heavily on the crank angle sensor for the crankshaft.

As for injectors, do the injector math to see how much HP you're are going to get soon. Need a S-AFC to control the fuel mapping . . . w/o it, you will run really rich with rough idle . . . not lumpy like on camshaft upgrade w/o tuning it.

See RC engineering's site . . . either for NA or TC application.

 

well........that shows i am still a noob, thats for showing me the way bahamut, ill remeber that info.

 

Well, that's okay. Rome wasn't built in one day. It's a slow learning process; once that light pops in your head, it's an enlightening experience from learning all those techno-babble stuff.

I've learned most of my import stuff from dude in a mirage and experience working on my car (trail and error - most fustrating, especially cutting oneself up like a stuck pig working in tight confine spaces). It has taken me about 1.5 yrs to understand 90% of his techie essay/posts concerning NA or TC performance. I still see myself 2.5 steps behind him on knowledge.

We, mirage guys, were lucky since few DSM'ers helped us along the way. They have long destroyed/broken their cars any shape or fashion imaginable before giving advice to look for danger signs.

Best way to read: www.vfaq.com (besides SCC on their tech articles)
Yes, it's about DSM'ers (that guy has dedicated a lot of time and effort), but performance principles still apply to a certain degree (adj accordingly). Just understand their techno-babble is a step in understanding your car potential w/o blowing stuff up.

Again, it will take time, patience, headache, and heartache. It's not an easy path . . . save money now and learn to prep your car the right way the first time, not correcting it several times within the year.

 

my question..since import tuner seems to think buschur racing is one of few tuners embracing the lancer...why haven't we seen or heard from them?

 

I doubt their priorities lie in either posting on our forums or in Lancers. They're 90% DSM. The only non DSM they work on is the Lancer. Hell, they don't even have the parts listed on their page. I'm a give them a call today and hopefully order my exhaust. We shall see.

Consider this thread hijacked.

 

what is N/A??

 

naturally aspirated .. pretty much without forced induction like turbos