Cams and such for 2.0/2.4 NA?
Oct 6, 2010, 05:25 PM
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I emailed Works last night and they said that they arent sure on a release date but could be anywhere from the end of the year or the spring of 2011. I also asked them what they thought the expected gains would be but no response back yet.
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Oct 6, 2010, 08:11 PM
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last time i checked 2.4s dynod close to 160 at the wheels, works tune claims 18 to the wheels, so 178 from a tune + other mods. maybe you should do some more research. plenty 2.0 motors push 180whp without FI. so with cams 180 should be highly obtainable
Oct 6, 2010, 10:24 PM
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Yes cams will greatly increase the upgrade potential of the lancers, and are something I have been waiting quite a while to see produced. However with that said I still think we have to do something about our air intake system to increase flow or just make the system more direct. I also think we need to break past the 6/6.5k rev limit on these engines. With some balancing and some higher compression pistons I really think our engine can become a high revving monster. Not entirely but I think you all know what I mean. We have perfect platform on the 2.0's, PERFECTLY square engine 
Oct 7, 2010, 12:14 AM
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Yes cams will greatly increase the upgrade potential of the lancers, and are something I have been waiting quite a while to see produced. However with that said I still think we have to do something about our air intake system to increase flow or just make the system more direct. I also think we need to break past the 6/6.5k rev limit on these engines. With some balancing and some higher compression pistons I really think our engine can become a high revving monster. Not entirely but I think you all know what I mean. We have perfect platform on the 2.0's, PERFECTLY square engine
Oct 7, 2010, 06:15 AM
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really? where did you get this assumption from.
last time i checked 2.4s dynod close to 160 at the wheels, works tune claims 18 to the wheels, so 178 from a tune + other mods. maybe you should do some more research. plenty 2.0 motors push 180whp without FI. so with cams 180 should be highly obtainable
last time i checked 2.4s dynod close to 160 at the wheels, works tune claims 18 to the wheels, so 178 from a tune + other mods. maybe you should do some more research. plenty 2.0 motors push 180whp without FI. so with cams 180 should be highly obtainable
You can expect a 2.4 with a tune, intake, catback and header to hit mid 150's at best.
Don't get your hopes up for 18whp from a tune, that's be very generous to expect even from a boosted car like a evo or wrx. From a 4cyl. car running lean like ours, 3-5whp is more realistic with a different tq. curve. Just because a supplier says you'll gain "X WHP" doesn't deam it factual. Dyno charts from an unbiased source = proof to me.
I really do not think you've done your research on the 2.0 and 2.4
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Oct 7, 2010, 07:16 AM
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Show me ONE dyno with a 2.4 hitting higher than 145whp that's stock.
You can expect a 2.4 with a tune, intake, catback and header to hit mid 150's at best.
Don't get your hopes up for 18whp from a tune, that's be very generous to expect even from a boosted car like a evo or wrx. From a 4cyl. car running lean like ours, 3-5whp is more realistic with a different tq. curve. Just because a supplier says you'll gain "X WHP" doesn't deam it factual. Dyno charts from an unbiased source = proof to me.
I really do not think you've done your research on the 2.0 and 2.4
You can expect a 2.4 with a tune, intake, catback and header to hit mid 150's at best.
Don't get your hopes up for 18whp from a tune, that's be very generous to expect even from a boosted car like a evo or wrx. From a 4cyl. car running lean like ours, 3-5whp is more realistic with a different tq. curve. Just because a supplier says you'll gain "X WHP" doesn't deam it factual. Dyno charts from an unbiased source = proof to me.
I really do not think you've done your research on the 2.0 and 2.4
Also, Evo's get far more than 18whp from a tune (coming from stock). From the dyno's I've seen, stock evos put down about 215whp stock and with a tune gain about 40-50whp. But apparently Evos run stupid rich from the factory.
Oct 7, 2010, 10:15 AM
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You are comparing apples and oranges... full bolt-on 2.4 with a tune I would imagine at about 170 whp TOPS on a high reading dyno.
Oct 7, 2010, 10:35 AM
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Oct 7, 2010, 12:27 PM
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Oct 11, 2010, 02:45 PM
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Show me ONE dyno with a 2.4 hitting higher than 145whp that's stock.
You can expect a 2.4 with a tune, intake, catback and header to hit mid 150's at best.
Don't get your hopes up for 18whp from a tune, that's be very generous to expect even from a boosted car like a evo or wrx. From a 4cyl. car running lean like ours, 3-5whp is more realistic with a different tq. curve. Just because a supplier says you'll gain "X WHP" doesn't deam it factual. Dyno charts from an unbiased source = proof to me.
I really do not think you've done your research on the 2.0 and 2.4
You can expect a 2.4 with a tune, intake, catback and header to hit mid 150's at best.
Don't get your hopes up for 18whp from a tune, that's be very generous to expect even from a boosted car like a evo or wrx. From a 4cyl. car running lean like ours, 3-5whp is more realistic with a different tq. curve. Just because a supplier says you'll gain "X WHP" doesn't deam it factual. Dyno charts from an unbiased source = proof to me.
I really do not think you've done your research on the 2.0 and 2.4
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3116916/2
163tq, way above the BS you were stating, and the funniest statement out of your whole quote is you say 18whp is generous to get from a boosted car like a evo or wrx? LMAO. bro seriously before you post anymore, if you can find one evo or wrx that gets less than double that with a tune, then you shall get a cookie.
works is a very reputable company but with all the other crazy stuff you've said i wouldn't expect you to know much about works and their reputation. i would look up the comany and compare their dyno results to actual results from customers.
until then. keep up the research
Oct 11, 2010, 03:00 PM
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you are really making yourself look like a fool right now lol please do some research instead of talking out of your *** like some people tend to do on here
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3116916/2
163tq, way above the BS you were stating, and the funniest statement out of your whole quote is you say 18whp is generous to get from a boosted car like a evo or wrx? LMAO. bro seriously before you post anymore, if you can find one evo or wrx that gets less than double that with a tune, then you shall get a cookie.
works is a very reputable company but with all the other crazy stuff you've said i wouldn't expect you to know much about works and their reputation. i would look up the comany and compare their dyno results to actual results from customers.
until then. keep up the research
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3116916/2
163tq, way above the BS you were stating, and the funniest statement out of your whole quote is you say 18whp is generous to get from a boosted car like a evo or wrx? LMAO. bro seriously before you post anymore, if you can find one evo or wrx that gets less than double that with a tune, then you shall get a cookie.
works is a very reputable company but with all the other crazy stuff you've said i wouldn't expect you to know much about works and their reputation. i would look up the comany and compare their dyno results to actual results from customers.
until then. keep up the research
Here are some for the 4B11, which is much lower than that 4B12.
http://proje ctlancer.net/index.php?showtopic=47 (remove space)
What I was referring to about the tune, comparing a tune to a car that is NA to FI is comparing apples to oranges. You WONT see 18whp from a works tune on our car.
Last edited by p1llar; Oct 11, 2010 at 03:02 PM.