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Old May 12, 2015 | 07:15 AM
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I would love to be able to turbo my car for that amount when I'm ready but most of us are not as mechanically inclined.

get your hands dirty, and you'll learn..."I can't" or "I'm not" attitudes will hold you back in all aspects of life...sure other people might be better, maybe they're a natural, or maybe they got into it at a younger age etc. Like I used to take apart chainsaw and weed whacker motors when I was like 9, built an 80cc dirtbike motor when I was 12, I'm lucky to be young still (29 is still young, I'm not 30 yet ), so had the internet then, and the info was out there, mind you it wasn't youtube videos, or PHP web forums, but it was out there...anyone can do it, you just need to be positive, and have determination and will.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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My 2 cents, OP. Reading what you want, more power is the last thing to spend money on. The idea is to sustain high corner speed and then be able to hammer it out onto a straightaway section - so spend money elsewhere first. Get this stuff to do that: thicker rear sway bar, sticky tires, lowering springs, more negative front and rear wheel camber, and a limited slip diff.

Then for better "feel" while driving under pressure get a CG-Lock to hold yourself tight, under-hood shifter bushings, a stiffer front roll stopper, and better brake pads.

With most of the above mods, and not even the diff, a front wheel drive RA can slide tail-out around a corner, under control, and then spin up the sticky front tires a bit as you accelerate as hard as possible out of the turn. Learn this car control first. More hp does not equal talent.

That said, I've driven Cranswick's car, and the extra power is sweet and addictive, a whole 'nother rush.

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Old May 12, 2015 | 10:03 AM
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solid advice...
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Old May 12, 2015 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAnSwIcK
get your hands dirty, and you'll learn..."I can't" or "I'm not" attitudes will hold you back in all aspects of life...sure other people might be better, maybe they're a natural, or maybe they got into it at a younger age etc. Like I used to take apart chainsaw and weed whacker motors when I was like 9, built an 80cc dirtbike motor when I was 12, I'm lucky to be young still (29 is still young, I'm not 30 yet ), so had the internet then, and the info was out there, mind you it wasn't youtube videos, or PHP web forums, but it was out there...anyone can do it, you just need to be positive, and have determination and will.
I got you man, I totally agree with what you're saying.
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SilentCool
I would love to be able to turbo my car for that amount when I'm ready but most of us are not as mechanically inclined.
I like to think I'm mechanically inclined a bit lol so this whole project for my Lancer is kinda really exciting. I'm just afraid I'll assemble my turbo kit wrong and blow my engine
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RalliartN
My 2 cents, OP. Reading what you want, more power is the last thing to spend money on. The idea is to sustain high corner speed and then be able to hammer it out onto a straightaway section - so spend money elsewhere first. Get this stuff to do that: thicker rear sway bar, sticky tires, lowering springs, more negative front and rear wheel camber, and a limited slip diff.

Then for better "feel" while driving under pressure get a CG-Lock to hold yourself tight, under-hood shifter bushings, a stiffer front roll stopper, and better brake pads.

With most of the above mods, and not even the diff, a front wheel drive RA can slide tail-out around a corner, under control, and then spin up the sticky front tires a bit as you accelerate as hard as possible out of the turn. Learn this car control first. More hp does not equal talent.

That said, I've driven Cranswick's car, and the extra power is sweet and addictive, a whole 'nother rush.
I see, my car is already lowered on springs ( I think maybe an 1" - 1.5") but I will have to work on the other stuff. Cambers shouldn't be a problem along with the tires. Thank you for your advice, like Cranswick said it's solid. I've been practicing corners more and more and been getting the hang of the car itself and a feel for my "edges". I want to get this started already because you guys make it seem like it's going to be a great project for me to get used to all of the innards of my car. Another question, if I do decide to go Turbo after above mentioned mods, would it give me too much power on the corners? With the sticky tires I feel like I should be able to pull through the corners with much more power as well. Thoughts??
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Old May 13, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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hooking a turbo up wrong won't blow your engine...not tuning it properly will blow your engine...it has to be hooked up correctly to blow anything up


as far as driving goes, i still can't normally accelerate from a corner until just beyond the apex, even with an LSD, depending of course on the corner, and the speed at which i started turning in...If you're starting to accelerate before the apex, you're asking for trouble...also hitting the correct apex for the corner takes a fair bit of experience, and should not be practiced on public roads...once you have some track experience, you can drive a little more spirited on back roads with confidence, just avoid reckless driving, as it's not just putting your own life at risk, but the minivan full of kids coming the other way...
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Old May 14, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CrAnSwIcK
hooking a turbo up wrong won't blow your engine...not tuning it properly will blow your engine...it has to be hooked up correctly to blow anything up


as far as driving goes, i still can't normally accelerate from a corner until just beyond the apex, even with an LSD, depending of course on the corner, and the speed at which i started turning in...If you're starting to accelerate before the apex, you're asking for trouble...also hitting the correct apex for the corner takes a fair bit of experience, and should not be practiced on public roads...once you have some track experience, you can drive a little more spirited on back roads with confidence, just avoid reckless driving, as it's not just putting your own life at risk, but the minivan full of kids coming the other way...
I totally agree with the reckless driving part. I've seen way too many kids around here doing dumb things to cars they don't have real respect for. They say track racing isn't as "impressive" as street racing.. I like to remind them that it doesn't take a genius to drive in a straight line and learn how to shift (-____-). They're too afraid of the canyons, and I guess that's a good thing for their sakes But back to the main topic, with an LSD, wouldn't it make it easier to get more acceleration out of the corner? (considering speed at entry, etc. ) and with a negative camber is that giving the tires more surface area or a better angle on a turn?
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Old May 16, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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If you want a built Lancer, All-motor DOHC 4G93E , Mine is for sale lol.

In all seriousness, bolt on mods on an SOHC motor will get you minimal gains. Your best bang for the buck option is a bolt on Turbo. This is coming from a guy who put nearly $10K into my build =P
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Old May 17, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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10k and no boost?!? why?


could have bought an Evo for the cost of a lancer, plus that 10k...
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Old May 18, 2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAnSwIcK
10k and no boost?!? why?


could have bought an Evo for the cost of a lancer, plus that 10k...
$10K over a span of several years. The bulk of the cost going towards install and having the block bored. I had fun at least
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Old May 19, 2015 | 08:42 AM
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Midnightkid do you have any dyno numbers?
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Old May 20, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jakermeister
Midnightkid do you have any dyno numbers?
I do, but not post-tune numbers. The map I ran on the dyno was way off from the map I run now. The tuner modified a 4G94 map rather than a DOHC 4G93 map. My numbers for that was 94 whp/ 91 ft-lbs on a Mustang dyno. For comparison, I've ran against a Scion FR-S and paced it from a roll and from a stop.
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Old May 20, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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You might get a better return if you just drop the regular head back on and convert it back to stock and sell the aftermarket parts. I'm sure it was still a fun project though.
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Old May 20, 2015 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jakermeister
You might get a better return if you just drop the regular head back on and convert it back to stock and sell the aftermarket parts. I'm sure it was still a fun project though.
Yeah, it was fun and ambitious on my part. But the amount of time It'd take trying to take everything apart and find buyers isn't worth the few hundred bucks I might make if I'm lucky. Since I live in Vegas, there's no shortage of people trying to get into the import world on a budget. I've already got several potential buyers willing to pay asking/near asking price.
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