for reference, I do not have an adjustable shifter. For those you will have to notch the housing somewhere and there's a guy who's reporting having trouble getting in to first with his adjustable shifter.....

so now you have more to choose from

 

Damn now I'm torn between the lancershop and the B&M. Does the lancershop come with everything you need to install it, including lube and such?

 

One other idea. My buddy did this in his civic after he put an integra type r engine into it. He just took a saw and cut 3 inches off the actual stick then put an after market knob on. The bottom of the knob actually sat at the same height as the console. It looked really sweet. He said he didn't have any problems with shifting either.

 

Yeah I definitely won't be doing that, but its an option for others though.

 

I heard with the 45% throw you had to do some slight alterations to the plastic on the car to make it fit right... is this true? I was going to go with lancer shops because I have heard nothing but good stuff about them and they are suposed to have the easiest install (from what I have heard)

 

Yeah, with the B&M, you have to cut a little 2 inch piece out of the shifter base. That is only if you choose the 45%. It is no big deal, it can't be seen. It is definately worth the money. B&M is a company that is known far and wide and i wouldn't want to go with anything else other than what I know is a very reputable and experienced company. Go to the evolutionm.net home page, and look at the b&M short shifter install. It has the instructions and detailed pictures of what needs cut. It took about 2 hours to install for me, just because I was being extra careful. B&M is definately the best choice.

 

That is what needs cut

 

keep in mind, that shifter base is turned upside down and the front is the front of the car, that part closest to the dash.

 

I didn't need any extra lube because my shifter was HELLA greasy when I took it apart

B&M is a known company and does have a reputation.... and that's what you're paying $110 for- a name and reputation. How did B&M get that name and reputation? Some kid all those years ago said "you know, I don't need to buy a mopar shifter and modify it at home for $200.... this B&M company already has a kit for $50, I'll give that a try"

Whatever direction you go, please, for the love of all that is good and sacred in this world, do NOT cut that shifter down. (it sounds like you're a reasonable fellow, but other reasonable fellows I've met have cut their shifters down and have ended up with crappy shifters. One guy kept missing shifts so often in his civic that he broke teeth off of his 2nd gear) <<off soapbox>>

 

When i bought a 88 civic hb it had the shifter cut down 3 inches and i very rarely missed a gear.

Im not saying its a good idea. Just stating my experiance with cut down shifters.

 

b&m 45% reduction is definitely the way to go. feels awesome, easy install. instructions are superb.

 

I'm glad to hear they took care of you guys properly. They ARE a very reputable and experienced company which is why we (Spec-V owners) could not understand why their ss's were snapping our cables left and right. It's a B&M, it should be great right? I guess we were just unlucky. I don't know if any of their ss's for other cars did this ( I doubt it) but I WOULD definitely buy another B&M product after researching it thoroughly. They make great quality ss's. I'm not really feeling the fact that you guys have to cut into your center console, well, actually I have a Nismo ss and had to do the same thing...and it was worth every snip.

From what I've read on this site, the B&M and Lancershop are the ways to go.

Good luck with your purchase bro.

-B

 

I also have the Ebay short shifter. I've had mine on for about a year now and I have been quite happy with it. It is easy to install and reduces the throw of shifts quite dramatically. The only problem with it however is that it does not come with a knob. I actaully made my OEM knob fit by taking out the plastic spacers in the shifter. I also had to remove the leather shifter boot's plastic hanger that holds the boot up. But it works great.

I say go with the Ebay short shifter and buy yourself a MOMO shift knob... works good, looks good, and is cheap as hell. By the way lithium grease only costs like a buck twenty five.

Fox

 

ebay short shifter......15-30 bucks for a good quality shifter. You need to go buy lithum grease to grease it up with but that stuff is like 5 bucks. It's a lot better in my opinion than forking out $100+ for a "name brand shifter". I mean after all....its just metal anyways....not like theres a ground breaking design difference in any of them.

 

Yeah don't worry I sure as hell won't be cutting my shifter any time soon. Probably give lancershop or RRM a call tomorrow and get my shifter on its way.