look @ your platform. look @ his. you dont drive a race car kid. know your limits.

 

k i'll post again when i do.

 

Lincoln LS? HA yea right. My girl drives a 2000 LS and I do not think you are going to win any races with that either. If you wanted a fast car for cheap should have gotten a different car i.e. 1st gen eclipse, talon, or laser.

 

u might have a shot keeping up with him or beating him if u got these mods intake, exhaust, header, throttle bodie, intake manifold, upgraded ecu, make your car a lil lighter, and make tha suspension better! im positive that u will b able 2 keep up with him and mayb beat him!

 

I have an idea, instead of *****ing at the kid and putting him down, he posted cause he needs help. how about helping him a bit and teaching him so he knows what to do. the forum isn't so you can make fun of other lancer owners (its to make fun of civics and busarus), help the kid out.

 

i agree with wingnut with his comments some of you guys just go 2 far! well i offered my advice!

 

I think that it is a very valid point to bring up the fact that our car isn't that fast and it doesn't have a chance against this car. It's the putting down of the kid that I don't like, calling him names and such. He'll learn though.

Fox

 

ok well a lincoln ls 2000 runs a 6.86 0-60. that's faster than most and def faster than grand am. thats with the automatic. a manual is guaranteed few tenths sec faster. i like to win anyway i would rather race win with a car thats not mine than to get dusted. stock grand am gt runs only a 7.9 sec 0-60 and i don't think that is impossible for a lancer with some modifactions to do. i only need to make up a little over a second. grand am's are poorly made cars and the car is much heavier than mine so i think it is a valid question.

 

some of you guys r acting like its impossible 2 beat a damn grandam gt its not i can keep up with y friends spec-v , and he would dog a grandam gt all day and night, and i can keep up with a mazda speed protege with a turbo and those would beat a grandam 2 so its not impossible with some mods

 

i know its a poorly made car. it's 0-60time is 7.9 . whats a stock lancer, 9.1. how is that such a huge difference to compensate. he has a auto. i have manual. we're talking about a pontiac. i want to mod up to be able to beat him. thanks for those who made suggestions.

 

no problem remember anything is possible dont give up , and keep at it u just gotta spend tha money 2 do it!

 

Anyway, I dug up some info for everyone to think about.

Grand AM GT
3.4L V6 175hp@4800 205tq@4000
7.64 to 60 15.93@88.1 for the 1/4
Can't find wheel hp numbers

Oz Rally Lancer
2.0L V4 120hp@5500 130tq@4250
9.05 to 60 16.98@83.2 for the quarter
107whp@5750 115wtq@4250

Ok, so stock for stock the base lancer needs a lot of loving to beat a GT, no matter how ugly and badly put together they are.

The question here is, 'Will standard bolt on's do the job?' The answer to that seems to be no. If you look at https://www.evolutionm.net/registry/index.php and filter by oz rally (which is going to post identical numbers to an oz.)

Looking at that list I find that the best time posted (by WADALIG_OZ) is a 16.616@83.95 for the 1/4, and he has pretty much every bolt on that I can think of. That's not quite gonna do it.

If you look farther up you find, two examples of guys running RRM's Non-IC kit @ 7psi, and RRM headers and those guys are running the 1/4 in 15.3-15.4. That would beat a stock GAGT assuming you are good with the stick and dont misshift. You would probably also want some better tires at that point to handle all the extra hp.

So the lesson to this story is, bolt ons are nice but they certainly aren't a magic bullet. The grand am gt isint quite in the same class, so to beat it you will need some Forced Induction to take it on. And this is all assuming that the GT isn't modded.

Lastly, a lot of people look at autos with some sort of odd disdain. When it comes right down to it an auto can actually be a good thing when racing. It never misses a shift and is very consistent.

Also....please dont race in a Lincoln LS....I mean...really, just dont. If you think it's bad to get beaten by a GAGT (at the drag strip I assume?) its really bad to show up in your mom's Lincoln. Not making fun (I'm really not)...just trying to give some sage advice.

Good luck.

 

Best post on here... Thanks for setting him straight for us.

Fox

 

ok just to clarify... im not going to show up and race with my mom's lincoln, however; a 2000 lincoln ls has:
V8 262 hp
262 tq
0-60 in 6.86s. so i doubt i would lose to the GAGT.
one other fact. I live in toledo, so pep who mod anything is rare. thanks though.
i think im going to go in the new turbo kit at RRM.

 

Good idea... but that still won't make this car all that fast. You should think about changing up the suspension as well and trying to go for a balanced apporach for this car. The lancer will never be a great 1/4 mile car without a whole lot of work so if I were you I'd do what I can to make the car better for the real world roads we all drive on. Unless every road you run is perfectly straight it doesn't make much sense, to me at least, to invest in go fast parts for a car that will never be as fast as the compitition. But you can take them in the curves! That's where this car can shine.

There just are far better uses for money and far better upgrade paths to follow then all out speed for this car.

Good luck in anything you do and the guys here will surly be able to help you in whatever that is.

Fox