hi there every one, i have just bought a aftermarket Evo Lancer 4, did any one seen the movie initialD before? I am wondering how does he make the effect like "invincible fire?" which it has fire in his ekzos and a "pop!" sound in his ekzos. I am clear that this is not blow-off . Please give me some guide and give me some web address regarding this engine system.

I am a newbie,


regards,

 

I think it's called a mis-firing system. from what I know, it just gets rid of the turbo lag. I think I heard that it is used for some rallies. I could be totally wrong. maybe ralliart? maybe not.

 

It's the ALS (Anti-Lag System) but I wouldn't use it unless you want to get a turbo every year There was a discussion about this in the turbo tech forum or engine tech forum. Check and see what they said.

Mark

 

yea i wouldn't recommand it unless u r getting a new turbo everyyear
btw, that's the evo 3 in the show and movie that has that system, and is true most WRC cars uses it and i think subie uses it in SCCA

here, i found my old post

"Misfiring System
(this isn't the exact explaination because i can't remember the whole thing...but the idea is right)

Misfiring system is a system that's in the computer...when you decelerates, it tells the computer to send in large amount of fuel into the engine...but because you are decelerating those fuel are not ignited...and because of the high heat in the engine the fuel turn to vapor form and when you try to accelerate again the engine already has a lot of fuel to burn so it can accelerate fast in low speed like normal aspirated cars...the "bang bang" or "pop pop" sound that it makes was created because the fuel that was sent to the engine when u decelerate turned into vapor and the product of the reaction (igniting vapor gas) is fire and explosion and the only way out for the explosion is the exhaust and so there are fire coming out and u here the "bang bang"
"

 

o btw i think the one i said and the one subie used in SCCA are slightly different...i m not sure

 

This means that installing such thing on the car will damage the car engine deeply,right?

 

It will more than likely damage the turbo on the car.

Mark

 

i myself wouldn't call it damage, but wear

 

Uh ... oh .... did you see that Hachi-Roku on your rear view mirror ?

 

what... did i not explain it well enough??
YES! you CANNOT put it in your car... forget it... it will destroy your turbo compressor blade in one week... what is does is that it makes an explosion just before your turbo when your turbo just begins to spool thereby decreasing spool up time... then you get full boost...

I guess a better question is what do you want it for... if you need it for racing... i think JUN has a system... super expensive.... also you will need to change all the exhaust systems and you don't have cats of course...

But if you want it for looks,.... (I assume this) then there are systems that use a spark plug and fuel line in the exhast system to make flames blow out the back of the car... hehee ( I think fast and furious did this) its pretty cheap i hear... if this is your cup of tea...

 

i think that's just to shoot flames out from ur pipe (the car's pipe)...i think is ghey if u do it on the lancer...i would do it in a muscle car dude

 

hey everybody,
happy new year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is a company in england that do anti-lag systems,
called mo-tech. the system consists of an ecu which is re-programmable,
this in the long run will not wear out the turbo.

i've seen the system in action,and i nearly went deaf with the popping and banging of the exhaust system.oh yeah dont get too close either
to the back of the car or else your trousers will go up in fire!!!!!!!!!

 

interesting... won;t wear out the turbo... i have to see this any links...?

 

this anti-lag system that doesnt mess up your turbo, how much would it cost and is it being sold in the US or does it need to be import ed

 

Any antilag system that uses either retarded ignition (like the motec or link ecu-programmed ones) or a seperate injector/plug in the manifold will cause extra wear on the exhaust side of the turbo, simply due to the extra heat and pressure of the igniting fuel-air mix running through the vanes. I'm pretty sure it's inescapable that any ALS will wear out your turbo quicker than non-ALS.

Also, the only benefit of ALS is between gear shifts, since all it is designed to do is keep the turbo spinning at full speed in that fraction of a second between you clutching in, changing gear, then clutching out. If you have the standard mitsubishi turbo, turbo lag is so small (around .5s from off boost to on boost, IIRC?) that the extra benefit of ALS is nearly negligible. Only really worth considering if you get a bigger aftermarket turbo for more power, that has a much longer lag.

You can still get flames from a straight-through exhaust on overrun anyway, so unless you definitely want the noise (or race professionally and just have to eliminate turbo-lag) ALS is more of an expensive toy than a necessary tuning step. Make up your own mind whether it's something you want on your car or not.

Oh, and these forms of ALS will only "over"-wear the turbo (and possibly the manifold as EGT is higher running ALS), your engine block should be fine with either method.

Derek