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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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where the hell do you live brah....im in milwaukee and we had a storm but it wasnt too bad....there was some downed trees but it wasnt that bad.......anyways sorry about your car problems
i live close to milwaukee and we have a ton of trees down and got a lot of rain
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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i bet you the filter was wet and you had some water sitting in the tube. Which would explain the stalling. Let your car idle for a very good amount of time man, I'd say let it just sit and idle in your driveway a good hour to hour and a half to dry everything up. Also, take off your filter and wipe the inside of there with a paper towel, take your filter inside and let it dry all the way.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by maverick92482
i live close to milwaukee and we have a ton of trees down and got a lot of rain

yeah i was driving through new berlin during the storm to go look at evos.....all the street lights went out and the roads were chaos.....people are idiots
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Yea that storm sucked, if I had a CAI my engine might have been locked with the flash flooding. Thats one reason I why I won't get a cai..that and the winters. Taking it out for winter isn't worth it when a SRI is almost as good.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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yeah....CAI in wisconsin is just dumb... you have to worry about it wayyyyy too much.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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I can't stress enough how unlikely water ingestion is in any large quantity with a CAI. There simply isn't enough vacuum created to pull large quantities through the intake piping, MAF, TB, IM and into the head. You're more likely to have a lot of condensation inside the metal piping than you are to suck up water through the filter. That being said, I wonder how it went.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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wisconsin is harsh.....anything could happen brah...especially if your driving through some pretty killer puddles and its splashing up into your engine bay
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Engines are engines are engines. Unless you submerge the filter it's unlikely that there's enough vacuum to suck in any large quantities of water. If water in WI has some sort of anti-gravities properties I suppose it could happen more easily, but otherwise I stand by it being EXTREMELY unlikely that the engine ingested water...especially since he wasn't running it at the time.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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I was just stating what happened to me, I seriously drove through water that had I installed a CAI the filter would have been completely submerged, and there was no was around... maybe backing up on an off-ramp... add the snow we get around here also. I know NJ the winters are just as bad.

Taking the CAI yearly isn't something I want to do, especially with the small difference in power it would make compared to a CAI. I know the probiblity of hydrolock is small but it could happen.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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I'm not trying to change anyone's personal preference. I'm simply stating that it's highly unlikely that water ingestion is what was causing his car to idle high and then die. If it ingested water it probably wouldn't be firing in the first place anyway.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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It jumps to 4k at startup?
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HobieKopek
I can't stress enough how unlikely water ingestion is in any large quantity with a CAI. There simply isn't enough vacuum created to pull large quantities through the intake piping, MAF, TB, IM and into the head. You're more likely to have a lot of condensation inside the metal piping than you are to suck up water through the filter. That being said, I wonder how it went.
Hobie, I respect everything you say, and your experience and knowledge is unquestionable... but I have to disagree with you on this point, with some personal experience. My Injen CAI sucked water into the engine without a whole lot of pressure, and without submersion. I didn't have the engine goin' anywhere over 3k RPMs at the time, and no faster than maybe 25-30 MPH, when I drove through what could only be called a large puddle in the road (here in southern California - not the rain capital of the nation), and the CAI sucked water into the engine, which died shortly (30 seconds) thereafter. A day of letting the engine dry out, a little bit of work burning out what water remained within, and an ECU reset, and I was OK... but it wasn't long after that I switched to short ram.

I thereafter had been exposed to two theories, either of which I could believe: 1) my car had defied physics and performed the impossible, or 2) It's not as hard to get water up through a CAI as most people believe.

I've chosen to believe the second.

Granted, this is irrelevant to the currently addressed issue, as this individual's engine was not running at the time, but I've heard the "CAI can't ingest water easily" statement enough times that I had to finally interject.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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It's not impossible to get water into the engine, but it is unlikely. I've read (quite literally) at least half a score of threads where people think they've sucked water through their CAI and about 4-5 of them actually did. And of course this is saying nothing of the countless people who have CAI's, drive with them in heavy rain, and never have any problems whatsoever. I can only think of 1 or possibly 2 offhand who actually damaged their engines by doing so, and all these occasions had the car running (no surprise there). I really doubt he started his car in a puddle of water, and I doubt even more that water splashed up from under the car, through his intake and into the engine without it running. Feel free to disagree, but I don't see any logic behind water ingestion in this case unless there's a big part of the equation missing (i.e. something he's not telling us).
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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hey guys. no i did not have the car running, the weather was to crazy to be driving, i didnt start my car till the next morning at 730 when i was going to school. so no i didnt have the car running to clear it up. the storm hit us at about 6 and lasted a little pass 640. thanks for all the help.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Is it running now?
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