I said Lancer, not Lancer EVO VII

anyway I checked out an OZ rally edition Lancer tonight at my dealership. I must say it does look better in person, though it needs some work still. I wanted to get a feel for what my new car might feel like (size wise).

Anyway it has a 4G94 engine with 9.5 compression. A turbo would be possible but unlikely.

It would gain about 30 hp by getting an intake. The stock one necks to about 1" (no kidding) in the middle. Also the grill is part of the hood, which is a bit wierd. There is a lot!!! of room in the engine bay for such a small car. Wonder what they might use that for on other models?

Now I wonder if the 4G63 EVO VII engine would bolt in.

 

I'm sure it would fit, getting the 4WD to work is a different story.

 

i wonder if the 4G63 EVO VII engine would bolt up in a GSX Eclipse?

 

it would be kind of pointless to swap an Evo engine into a GSX seeing as how the Evo engine is just a modified version of the GSX engine.

 

I know the heads are better, what about the bottom end on the EVO's
It would not be so pointless if you had a GSX sitting around w/ no engine.

 

What are the differences between the Evo and GSX engines?

 

not totally sure, but i know they both run the mitsubishi 4g63t. I think the Evo has a bigger turbo, different cams, all around better airflow, not totally sure on all the specifics.

 

I know for sure the heads are diffrent, i think they have a better port & pollish, & i'm sure about the cams being somewhat better. I don't know about the bottom end, you would think so seeing how the upper end was built better.

 

well, the evo only has about 60 more HP than the GSX, which might be attainable with just breathing upgrades, so its possible most of the engine is exactly the same other than some larger diameter piping and filters. THe GSX engine wasn't any kind of weakling. Its really almost as good as the engine that comes in the evo. I wouldn't be too incredibly depressed to see a US edition with the GSX engine, as long as mitsu lowered the price to compete with the WRX.

 

You guys are missing a very important point. The EVO IV+ engines are on the opposite side of the engine bay of the 90-99 Eclipse/Talon/Laser/Galant VR-4.
The motor mounts are on opposite sides, the transmission is on opposite sides, the head is turned 180 degrees, etc.
The only way to swap would be to fab custom motor mounts.

If you want an EVO engine in your GSX then you would want the EVO III motor which was the last to be on the drivers side. It bolts into a GSX.

The EVO IV+ engine bolts into a Mirage just fine though, or a 2000+ 4 cyl Eclipse.

 

OMG! I cant believe I forgot about that! how ridiculous of me.

 

well russthelm that was a great peice of info for us to have.
You really think it would bolt right up to a Mirage, do you think it would work i the older Mirages that were hatchs?

 

Here are what should work

EVO I-III engine -> 90-99 E/L/T/GVR4 and ??-96 Mirage.

EVO IV-VI engine -> 97-01 Mirage and 2000-2001 Eclipse

EVO VII+ engine -> 2002 Lancer and ???


The EVO VII may have the same mounting as the EVO IV-VI but I don't know. The best people to contact (if and only if you were really serious) is Road Race Engineering. I know they have an EVO VI engine and other stuff waiting to go into an interested customers car.

 

really, the EVo IV-VI engines bolt right into a mirage? I thought that there were problems with that. You would think it would work like a charm, but I thought I heard that when Mirages/lancers are converted to Evos the mounts and bushings were replaced. I could be wrong though.

 

In the end is it really worth it though? You still need the suspension, drivetrain, Recaro seats, and even after all that you'll never really have the ultra stiff chassis.

Here's an illegal idea What if you buy a totalled Mirage for dirt cheap and a used Evo for race only use. Then swap all VIN numbers so its as if you swapped the Evo parts into the Mirage (theoretically of course ). Then register it as a Mirage and let them know it's been modified.... huuuh.... huuuuh........ come on, it could work

Mark