i was looking at this on rrms site and they say it does this and that but dont really give any numbers so i was wondering, for those that have it or seen what it can do, if this thing is worth the cost. its the 04-06 version auto and ive heard that it pays for itself in gas and improves torque but are there any hp gains and if so how much?

 

i have it ( 03 lancer es ) and it works really good u wont really feel anything but it because save u gas and gives a little bit of torque and 1 or 2 hp

 

really? i sent rrm a message asking about it and they said 10% gains in all areas so that should be about 20 hp if that is correct. hmm maybe the 02-03 is diff from 04-06?

 

i had the V1 on my 03, and i really didn't see all that much of an improvement. I gained a little power and some extra mileage, like 10 more miles a tank. But i had a lot of issues with it also. Misfires, car stalling out, CEL's etc. It was installed correctly and soldered, but it ended up being more trouble than it was worth


and the 04-06 will see the same gains as a 02-03 with the piggy. They say 10%, but they also say you need to have supporting mods to get those gains, like intake, header, exhaust. Which means you end up spending even more money.
I'd recommend getting ECU flash if you wanna tune your car

 

Dude, we all love RRM. But you can't always believe what the manufacturer tells you. It's their job to make the part sound as good as possible so you'll buy it. Look how many people buy that Tornado thing thinking they'll save hundreds of dollars (I bought the Tornado and got LOWER mileage than stock).

Also, 10% of your stock 120hp (100whp) isn't 20. If RRM was exactly true, you'd have 132chp and 110whp. But at best, that 10% is an average or a rough idea.

No, it's the same motor from 2002 until 2006.

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In the end, the piggyback is a good mod. It'll save you gas and it'll make your car peppier. But don't expect a miracle, and don't believe everything you read.

 

yeah i kinda figured i was gonna hear this so then what can the ECU flash do exactly?

 

there is a thread on it in the tunning section. Basically it lets you connect a laptop to the cars ECU, and reflash it with a different tune, and adjust some other settings.

The software is free, and you just gotta pay $90 to get a cable. Then you can take it to a tuner shop and have it tuned. It will be better and cheaper than a piggyback

 

oh so how much power could you get off of that then approximately?^

 

about the same as a piggy. and just like a piggy, you will get more if you have intake, header, exhaust. cos you are re-tunning the ECU for those mods.

 

oh ok thanks that helps a lot

 

Waste of money. Doing any kind of engine mods for our cars is a waste of money. If you're looking to save gas, put on a SRI (DIY $35). I gained 50mpt. I did it for the gas, not power. Lancer = No power, unless you boost it. Think about how long it's going to take to pay for itself in gas savings using a piggy. Looooooooooong time. I bet you'll even sell the car before it does.


Lots of people disagree with me, and more power to them. But I think it's all a waste of $$$$.





This post is not intended to start another debate against engine modding, so please keep yourself from quoting me.

 

If you want a car for good gas mileage get a honda hybrid. Hell my moms manual 05 corolla s gets 40 mpg and beats my car and my mods are sri and exhaust haha.

 

I drive by a red Beetle everyday that's diesel and gets 55mpg.

 

oh believe me this thread has completely turned me from piggy lol if i do anything now to engine it will be turbo

 

To bring things back on topic it is honestly all up to you and your funds when it comes to modding the u.s. lancer. Being that you have a automatic you have alot of drawbacks when it comes to getting power out of your car. I would say spend money on simple (cheap) boltons. Intake, full exhaust (header to catback) and if you still like it then buy the piggyback. Your not gonna get much gains with the piggy without the boltons.

I honestly think that a 4G63 swap is the way to go for power.


Daniel