... talk about a waste of money

 

This is very true, but that is just the way the world works. I've known several people that have been able to get nice cars from their parents or with help from their parents. The only time I was helped was a co-signature from my father on my first Lancer (Ralliart), after that I've been on my own ever since.

 

ur right, modding cars is a waste, whether they start with 100whp or 240.

GET OVER YOURSELF. YOU HAVE A NICE CAR, NOW MOVE ON.

 

I don't understand why it is cool to mod an evo but it isn't cool to mod a Lancer. And if someones goal is to be able to beat a stock evo in a straight line, how is that any different than shooting for a 1/4mile time? At least they are being honest with thier intentions.

The guy didn't say he wanted to build an Evo, just that he wanted to beat one. I for one think it's a good goal. Not financially prudent, or the best way to spend your free time, but if that's what gets your rocks off then more power to you.

 

It's not that it isn't cool (because I think it's an interesting project) but in all reality a modded regular Lancer will cost you more in the long run than if you would just buy an Evo off the bat. And probably you still won't get the same performance/handling characteristics as a stock Evo. It's just not economical. But if someone has some money to burn and plenty of free time then no one is stopping anyone.

 

Yeah you won't get the same performance out of a modded lancer you will with an evo but more economical? I don't know about that. With an evo, its 37k, then $400 a month in insurance, and premium gas, and more expensive vehicle services. How is that cheaper?

 

Anything is possible. I understand why you would want to do it back ask yourself this:

1. Is it worth it?
2. Do you feel like taking care of a heavily modified car?
3. Do you want to spend that kind of money on modifing a car or buying one that already has the power.
4. Do you want the lack of traction from that much power to the front wheels?

 

Yeah, I'm hoping they show it off at the NAIAS so we don't have any more misinformation floating around. The last credible info I have heard is a 4B12 AWD low boost turbo setup hitting around 240 hp. It'll basically be an AWD 09 GTS with a turbo at about 7 psi.

 

im not talking about having the actual 10-12k right at this moment to drop on aftermarket parts. if i did, i would have already put that as down on an evo 9. those numbers are actually just figures. exaggeration.

im talking about putting 7-8k within around a 3sh year period.

an evo would cost me give or take around 600 a month and around 250sh for insurance. thats around 800sh a month compared to 400 car and insurance i do on the lancer gts.

if i didnt get a house last year, i woulda gone with the evo already

 

I think it should be possible... I've seen a base 02 Lancer race an Evo before and it was pretty much head to head

 

Maybe get a used '03 Evo? You could probably trade straight up for something beat on.

IMO i think its more fun to own something that you built and tuned yourself. You know more about your car and you take more pride in something that you did more then something that you bought.

 

Guys, there's more to performance than straight line speed, hell you can made a cavalier faster than a ferrari if all you car about is going in a straight line (and only need to make one pass). I would much rather have a stock evo at a track than a highly modified lancer.

 

The pocket rocket concept is dead! Dodge has that niche, and Mitsu won't step on their toes.


Why are some people here is so infatuated with the competition w/ the WRX? It's freaking small fries! It's like GM worrying about the sales of Mercedes or BMW against the Caddy.

Mitsu will stay small until they WANT to compete w/ Accord, Tauras, and Camry. When you start to making cars topping in the top 10 in overall sales, the company will make tons of money.

The best example is the death of the supra. It took the death of that car to eventually make Toyo sell enough cars to topple GM as the top world seller. Now, which concept has more black ink at the end of the year? Performance buffs might slam Toyo about their performance, but who is laughing all the way to the bank . . . yup, it' the CEO and the board of directors.

 

only if you swap in a 4G63T

 

And evidently that's at the expense of quality...Toyota quality has been slipping a lot the last few years and it's arguable that GM hardly had any quality to begin with.

Having a top 10 selling car is not a ticket to profit...GM & Ford have been drowning in debt for YEARS...and Pugeot overseas is in a similar situation.

A company's goal is never to say "let's be a mid rate manufacturer and watch everyone outsell us." Mitsubishi is small because they were a mismanaged company for a very long time, but unlike GM, they were at least smart enough not to keep writing checks they couldn't cash.

Every company you mentioned (including Mitsubishi) has hardly made a dime in this country, with the exception of Honda & Toyota.

And Toyota didn't rake it in because they got rid of the Supra... they raked in because they built up Scion & Lexus on top of their current product line. The Supra was ditched because it didn't fit that market strategy.