E85
30% More Consumption From Stock Because Stock Runs Really Rich!?!
My Buddy Has An Evo Also And Got Tuned By Ams And Has Full Exhaust, Cams, Intake, Stage 2 Clutch And Waste Less Gas Then My Stock Evo With Just Intake!?!?!
My Buddy Has An Evo Also And Got Tuned By Ams And Has Full Exhaust, Cams, Intake, Stage 2 Clutch And Waste Less Gas Then My Stock Evo With Just Intake!?!?!
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From: Warsaw, Indiana
E85 and also 93 pump. My car made 426/425 with the Green turbo. I'm shooting for 10's!!!!!
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From: Warsaw, Indiana
I'll let you know on my drive home from Buschur Racing tomorrow. When I drove the 230 miles to drop it off, I was getting 26mph on the highway. I'm figuring about 19 to 20 on the way back. It's all worth it thought with the increase in power, I don't have to worry about the alky kit not working like it did on several occassions. Plus, with the price difference in gas, your really not losing anything. You just have to make a couple more stops for gas on long trips. Throw some extra tanks in the back and you'll be good to go.
-INJECTORS 780 OR 1000'S??
-FUEL PUMP
-FUEL LINES??
ANYTHING ELSE???
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From: Warsaw, Indiana
I added 1000cc injectors and a double pumper fuel pump. That's it! That's all I believe they recommended. No fuel lines or anything else. Hope this helps and good luck on your choice. I'll let you know how the car feels tomorrow.
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This is exactly backwards actually.
E85 cleans the tank out and can plug the fuel filter but it doesnt eat through anything like steel or aluminum. Methanol on the other hand is highly corrosive to aluminum and can eat holes in it if left on exposed surface without running gas back through it. Methanol is also bad on rubber lines, gaskets, and seals. Ethanol hasnt caused any of these issues in any car we have done or my personal or Lucas' personal Evo.
To answer the other question...
To run E50 (or some approximate value) you will need to put larger injectors in, a fuel pump, and retune. At that point you might as well run straight E85 or E98 and then tune just for that. The octane level is rated at 105 motor octane for E85 and somewhere (depending on who you listen to) 113 and 120 motor octane. Remember that motor octane is the minimum value the fuel will be and research is the maximum. When we buy 91-93 octane it is an average of those 2 values.
Boosted cars thrive on it, and I would suspect a properly built NA motor would as well (higher compression and larger camshafts) if everything was developed around the fuel.
E85 cleans the tank out and can plug the fuel filter but it doesnt eat through anything like steel or aluminum. Methanol on the other hand is highly corrosive to aluminum and can eat holes in it if left on exposed surface without running gas back through it. Methanol is also bad on rubber lines, gaskets, and seals. Ethanol hasnt caused any of these issues in any car we have done or my personal or Lucas' personal Evo.
To answer the other question...
To run E50 (or some approximate value) you will need to put larger injectors in, a fuel pump, and retune. At that point you might as well run straight E85 or E98 and then tune just for that. The octane level is rated at 105 motor octane for E85 and somewhere (depending on who you listen to) 113 and 120 motor octane. Remember that motor octane is the minimum value the fuel will be and research is the maximum. When we buy 91-93 octane it is an average of those 2 values.
Boosted cars thrive on it, and I would suspect a properly built NA motor would as well (higher compression and larger camshafts) if everything was developed around the fuel.
Ahh, see I've always been told E85 was very corrosive and eats metal like no tomorrow.
Sorry for not doing my own research and misinforming ^_^
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Wow! Ok, good news to know. Looks lke I won't be going that route. A little too much money for my pocket right now. At least I know how it all works though!
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Capslock = cruise control for awesome. 
I never knew using alternate fuels could produce so much horsepower. But I guess its like running straight racing fuel, just a lot cheaper to fill up.
How much is e85 per gallon? There aren't any places around here that I am aware of that sell it.
I never knew using alternate fuels could produce so much horsepower. But I guess its like running straight racing fuel, just a lot cheaper to fill up.
How much is e85 per gallon? There aren't any places around here that I am aware of that sell it.
Capslock = cruise control for awesome.
I never knew using alternate fuels could produce so much horsepower. But I guess its like running straight racing fuel, just a lot cheaper to fill up.
How much is e85 per gallon? There aren't any places around here that I am aware of that sell it.
I never knew using alternate fuels could produce so much horsepower. But I guess its like running straight racing fuel, just a lot cheaper to fill up.
How much is e85 per gallon? There aren't any places around here that I am aware of that sell it.