Well a couple of months ago i was planning on getting HIDs for my 03 Oz and i was asking questions about it.... And this one guy told me not to get em if i dont have Projector head lamps. Now.... I got my HIDs and about to install them, is it necessary to have the projector lamps and would it really make a difference(i know it would but would it be dramatic?)

 

...why in the world would it be necessary. projectors+HIDs are waaaaaaaay too bright.

 

lmao...simply put your dumb

 

the reason people say this is due to glare...its very annoying, bright and frustrating for the person driving infront of you when people stick HID's into housings not meant for it...its almost like driving infront of someone who has their brights on...not fun, retarded, and unneccesary

a projector..contrary to the morons post above, will control the light spread and minimize the glare...

ill find pics and post em

 

It's going to be super bright buddy

 

examples of glare

 

projector done right

 

With out the correct housing -- you end up with retarded amounts of glare and pissed off drivers.

A true HID in the correct housing produces light designs like this.



Now -- Both of the housings on my r6 are not the correct style. Here is it with both low(prior picture and correct housing) and the highs on -- as you can see the imporper housing creates stupid amounts of unfocused light.

 

actually, idiot, if you have clean lenses on regular headlights, H.I.D.s look perfect. on projects it focuses the light more, therefore making it more bright.

 

Actually you're wrong, cleaning headlights does nothing to change their design, you might as well argue that a clean dog is a cat. Headlights designed to work with halogen bulbs are fundamentally different from those designed to work with HIDs. Plenty of cars use HIDs with projectors, in fact I can not think of a current car that uses HIDs in a reflector-based housing, like the stock Lancer housing. STIs, Evos, S2000s, various Acuras, etc. use projectors to focus and, not surprisingly, project the HID lighting correctly. The brightness of the light is not the issue, how it is aimed is the issue. I have very bright bulbs that are basically as bright as HIDs but have zero glare issues. Perhaps you should make sure you know what you're talking about before attempting to put people in their place.

 

Actually -- The reason the HID's are in the housings they are in - is BECAUSE they are that much brighter. They distract and annoy other drivers if in reflector housings. A 35W HID is FAR brighter then a 55w halogen or anything else you can get from advance. Let alone if you jumped to a 55w HID. That would just be stupid bright.

HID's in their correct housings allow for brighter light because it is focus'ed at the road and not all over the place like a flashlight. They contain cutoffs - As obvious by my picture. The high beam does not contain a cutoff - and there for blasts light everywhere. IF you had HID's in reflector type housings - you would need to point them at the road 20 feet in front of your car not to annoy other drivers. Could you imagine if my r6 had both lights like the high and I was behind you - or heaven forbid coming at you?!



I can not think of a SINGLE car that has HID's for high beams.

 

The issue isn't the brightness of the lights, as I said, there are bulbs that are just as bright as HIDs, the issue is how they are aimed. HIDs in reflector housings simply are not aimed and just disperse randomly, which blinds oncoming traffic as well as reduces the actual usable light from the system.

 

The lumen output from a 55w 4500K HID -- is greater then any halogen 55w anything...

35watt hids are 3 times brighter(more lumens) then halogen 35watts.

55 watt hids are 33% brighter then 35watt hids. or just plain stupid bright.


Halogens are typically 1000-1200 lumens.
35 watt hids = 3200ish( depending on color, the higher the kelvin the lower the lumen output)
55 HID = 4400 lumens.

 

Sure, but again, the shear output is not the main issue. A flashlight is too bright if it's shone right in your eyes.

 

Right - but you can get away with the simple reflector housings/halogens because the light is not that bright.

The cutoff on projectors is necessary for hids -- unless you like the popo ****in with you.