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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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The Evo is geared Extremely well from what I hear. So that is one big factor.

We already stated though that the cuves and torque have to match, the weight has to match, the gearing has to match, and traction has to be a non-issue.

Sorry but you can't alter physics. If both cars were TRULY 250 whp, and everything else matches for the most part, and equivlanet drivers, then your EVO will be smoking nothing.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by kdogg


First of all,
You cannot compare a 2WD dynosheet with a AWD dynosheet. Every tuner on EVOM.net has mentioned that. Bushur Racings's 2WD dyno numbers are always higher for stock EVO's than Pruven's or Vishnu's. AWD dyno ratings are different than those of 2WD. I'm not arguing over the physics of horsepower, but I'm stating the dynos are measured differently.

I can find an online link, but SCC listed the top 10 cars for under $30K. The dynonumbers for a 350Z Track and the EVO were almost identical ~250whp (following our arguments). How is it possible that a EVO can smoke a 350Z by a pretty significant margin? Both have the same whp ratings? How can the EVO match accerlation numbers to a 333hp M3 and almost match a 390hp SVT Cobra?

Bottom line, bring me a dynoed 220whp 2WD car and my stock EVO will smoke it.
You're missing many many points. First of all, all dynos read differently depending on make, type, etc. Secondly, by converting to 2WD you are eliminating some of the drive line loss associated with AWD cars. They match acceleration numbers because of traction. Go run an '03 Cobra from a 20 roll, or higher, and report the results. They won't be pretty. Most stock RWD cars will be lucky to get 2.0 60' times at a drag strip, whereas even a fool can get a 2.0 out of the Evo with 1.8 or 1.9 being the norm and 1.7 for good drivers. Also, you're neglecting torque in your arguments too; I don't have specific figures for the 350Z but I would bet my life savings they aren't close to the Evo. 220 WHP from an Evo is no different than 220 WHP from any other car on the road, engine HP is only significant when the engine's out of the car, but there are **** loads of determining factors regarding which car is faster.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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I guess I'm just stating that an AWD car is faster due to better traction, so a 2WD car will need more power to make up for that loss of traction.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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That I'll certainly agree to . Or put crappy tires on the AWD, and put damn good slicks on the 2WD and then you'd be about even again too
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by sdhotwn


Take off the hood, front bumper, and wing. Now the only difference in styling between the two cars is the fender flares. Otherwise... same exact looking midsection, same hood lines, same door panels, same color layout, same general ground effects..

I've had my eyes check I know what I see .
get them check again...how the heck the OZ look anythin like the evo????? that thing look like a lancer and lancer only
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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Come on... at the least give me that the roof line looks the exact same!
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