Notices
Lancer General Come on in and discuss the US Lancer.

What would you do????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:21 AM
  #16  
Guru_Del's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
From: Lake Elsinore, CA
have you taken the housing off and inspected the wheel? Are you sure something didnt fall into your header when you installed it and wound up in the compressor?

I say option 1 or 2 as i cant imagine my lancer without boost.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:28 AM
  #17  
Boeturbolancer's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,791
Likes: 1
From: Hemet, CA
I'm curious to as what makes you think it's the turbo... last i knew you checked out the turbo and it spun freely with no play on it. There isn't any oil present on the exhaust side is there? So your spinning and not leaking... are you sure you just don't have a bad header gasket. My header gasket died on my a few days after installing the header. Caused me to boost late about 3500-3800 rpms vice 3000-3200 and it also made me only boost like 5psi when i was supposed to be at 7. Did you check all your gaskets??

Also i think if you talk to RRM they can get you a cartridge for the turbo... they are about 550-600 bucks. It just replaces the entire center section, compressor blades and all. All you do is take you exhaust and compressor housings off and put them on the new cartridge. Any descent shop could do that for like 20-30 bucks. It would save you big time.

Just a suggestion.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:29 AM
  #18  
mcbrown35's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 411
Likes: 1
From: Minneapolis, Minnesota
2 sounds like a pretty good deal considering the labor, guages, new install and worry free for a year... If you figure, just to add the guages and water cool setup that alone would run about 500 bucks...

Exactly how do you know the Turbo is bad..are you sure there is no other culprit? Pressure leak, bad gasket etc... I lost boost a few times due to clamps slipping off non-flanged piping...

Keep boosting!
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:42 AM
  #19  
blk02oz's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Once you decide what option is best for you bro, let me know eithere way. I will hold onto this T-28 for a while and could maybe give you a better deal on it. Thanks !
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 08:26 AM
  #20  
Lancergtr1's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Post deleted due to off topic content. SPAM.

Last edited by HobieKopek; Jun 25, 2004 at 10:41 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 08:29 AM
  #21  
blk02oz's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
The link is no good ?!?!
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 08:36 AM
  #22  
uranium9v's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,509
Likes: 0
From: Somerset, KY
numba 2 ma looord!
(sorry been watching Shrek with the kids)
Get it done by a local install shop. That way if anything happens you can access them easier.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2004 | 03:27 AM
  #23  
twinkiemobile's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco/Phoenix
Well.. first off.. i checked all the gakets.. (and i mean all of them.. bought brand spanking new ones from RRM for the wastegate and from mitsu for the engine/header, header/uppipe, uppipe/wastegate) all other gaskets were never taken off from when i first installed the turbo.. never touched and never leaked..(yes checked them too either way)

Now for the turbo.. at first it was free spinning... so i placed the intake pipes back on.. ran the car around the block... let the turbo cool down, then came back and took the pipes off again.. tried to spin the impeller fan.. it spun got stuck... played with it a bit then began to freely move again..(no crunching noise of any sort).. did entire process again.. same thing.. it would get stuck.. then move... tried it one last time.. then it got stuck and it took me 1 hr of playing with it to get it to spin again...( still no noise, no crunches.. it would just get stuck)

Also replaced all vacuum lines, reprimed oil feed line.. checked wastegate, checked BOV, bought a boost gauge, etc. etc. tried everything.. and came to the sad realization that i had a messed up turbo..

Last thing.. i took the whole turbo assembly to the local shop and they confirmed that the problem was the turbo.. because the impeller fan was stuck again and i had to keep playing with it until it would spink again(still no crunches, no noise, no pull play... just spinning...)

however... the person who commented about the turbo timer is correct.. i did not have one on the car(it was advised against by some stupid buddies of mine.. and being the gullable newbie to the world of cars i believed them) however.. before i turned of my car i would always play a full track on my cd player... which would've ran about 3 mins average.. very rarely would i have suddenly turned off the car.. believe me that thing is my baby!.. and 3 grand into it plus monthly of 200.. i made sure i took care especially since i was of it.. working for that..

but now still thinking.. i have considered just getting the new internals for the turbo... and although it would save me close to 900 dollars.. i would miss out on a Carb sticker, 1 year warranty(on turbo and labor), 2 more autometer gauges(proffesionally installed and mounted along with my boost gauge), a brand new turbonetics t28, professionally tapped watercooled turbo, and a good standing with a local shop... but i still dont know which way to go.. i am currently only at the 900 dollar mark.. and just want my car to be running soon.. i'll keep everyone who is interested in the kit updated.. expect to hear from me after the 4th of july.. i am going to work both my jobs as much as possible to open up my possibilities.. thanks for everyones support and advice, plz keep them coming..

- Jose
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2004 | 08:15 AM
  #24  
Boeturbolancer's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,791
Likes: 1
From: Hemet, CA
just replace the cartridge and be done with it. You can still drive the car while you wait for it to come in just don't boost it. Then when it gets in it take the turbo off the car and change it out... then you'll be set. Do the water yourself if you'd like later... that should only cost about 100bucks in materials. Maybe turbonetics will do it for around that.
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 12:14 AM
  #25  
twinkiemobile's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco/Phoenix
Well guys.. i have a massive update!!!!!!!!!!.. Guru Del hit it on the head!... there was something in the little well of the exhaust housing fan of the turbo.. it was a piece of metal that became stuck in that little well.. and basically whent he car was on.. the force of the exhaust air moved it enough to block the fan.. so it wouldn't spin.. and if you turned the car off and played with it.. you can keep wiggling it and it will spin freely... that is why i had both situations happening...

Thanks to my dad, he said that its better that we take it apart.. learn or not since we thought taht we were going to have to replace it anywayz.. so we decided to take the turbo apart and examine it thoroughly.. ( i was heasitant to do so since i'm not a mechanic or any sort.. and the thought of opening it until i got a brand new one scared me..) and as soon as we opened it.. there it was... i will attempt to post pictures of it.. and talk to RRM about it as well.. the metal piece that came out seems to be exactly the same type of metal as the housing for the turbo. i will ask them if i can send it to them and if they can check it out to see if it is from the factory... and if the shear size of the metal can get stuck in that little well of the exhaust housing.. it was a 1 in a trillion chance that was trying to screw my over for 1500...

Anywayz.. thanks for everyones support and advice, i'm just real glad that i have my car boosting again.. i will now post pictures.. and send PM's to those who have expressed interest in my kit... Sorry guys..
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 12:25 AM
  #26  
twinkiemobile's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco/Phoenix
here's the pictures
Attached Thumbnails What would you do????-pictures-050.jpg   What would you do????-pictures-051.jpg   What would you do????-pictures-052.jpg   What would you do????-pictures-053.jpg   What would you do????-pictures-054.jpg  

Reply
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:37 AM
  #27  
Boeturbolancer's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,791
Likes: 1
From: Hemet, CA
WOW That is definately not good. Send that piece to RRM. It has some identifications on it so if it was a part of the turbo they'll find out. If not they may be able to see where it came from. What's weird is that it actuall looks like an internal engine piece? No worries though just send it in. Thanks and glad you got it figured out.
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:58 AM
  #28  
HobieKopek's Avatar
EvoM Staff Alumni
20 Year Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,701
Likes: 0
From: Long Island
Check all your rings and valves, and check them well. I doubt you sucked in anything foreign, but it may very well be a piece of your motor.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:34 AM
  #29  
twinkiemobile's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco/Phoenix
actually.. it was on the other side of the exhaust part of the turbo.. i took the picture the wrong way around.. haha.. becuz when my dad and i got to it it was hitting the fan.. so i dont see how an engine piece ended up there.. i dunno maybe, i still have to call RRM and see what i should do with this, but i've been working a lot so that i can get some other goodies for the car.. i'll definately still check everything on the car.. but its been running great and kicking in hard the past 2 days..
Reply




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:32 AM.