nice dampers claud,but hi fi is for homes,
looks like you have a flux capacitor in your boot ???
have you ever driven at a steady 88mph ???

 

Claudius

shocks look brilliant as you've already told me. But get at least a rear strut brace to compliment those. Will make a difference.

Now you just need some decent brakes. If I can do something for you let me know.

Cheers

Mike

 

Get the same setup at the front as I and N.Ring have. This is far enough for the weight of the EVO. At the rear the kit N.Ring already has (I'll get mine in spring). You won't need bigger discs as they can stand heavy use. Bigger discs just means more unsprung weight, more stress on bearings etc. N.Ring has just removed his discs after more than now 80laps on the Ring and they still look like easily used. And he uses harsher pads than e.g. Blade on his AP setup.

The monobloc callipers are anyway state of the art. These are also used on the heavier turbo, not only on the GT3. You'll have a perfect setup for road and track. The biggest difference is the brake modulation compared to the standard ones. Low maintenance due to dust seals, proven on race tracks all around the world. The Porsche Supercup uses the same brake setup and they drive on pure slicks, weight of the car similar to ours.

Off course if you want the best system available for money then with DEM 30/- you can get the ceramic stuff front and rear with the monobloc 6 pots from the GT2. It's very light, discs are almost undestroyable and look the business. Problem will be finding a wheel with enough clearance. Additionally this system will look up your wheels at 250 even with your Yokos. Even Tommi would be jealous if you had this system.

Regarding the ABS system components. I'm sure your Rally friend can do that more easily as he's more experience with EVOs prepared for Rallies.

Let me know if you're interested. And Movit is always found of car nutters as he's one himself !

Cheers

Mike

 

Scoobymike,

I know that your brake system is very good, and better than the standard one, but as Claudius has no problems with his setup with the ctf discs and pagid rs14 pads, I think that he will change it only to get something really bigger!

I saw a picture of the six pot gt2 kit but they say that is not ceramic but that is even better!
I think these brakes should be really good, but I just don't know if they are better than the ap 362 6 pot kit or the ap 6 pot kit lc.

I don't want to say that ap are better as I should try both of them and fore sure both are really good, but they are more expensive.
Will they fit with 18" wheels?

 

Maxi

the pic shows the GT2 kit with the steel 380mm discs. This is not as dear as the one with ceramic discs. Take a close look at the ends of the venting channels. It's honed down a bit to increase the flow of hot air out of the discs even more. This is a special feature done by Movit which the GT2 doesn't even have. He's also constructed his own design of callipers to even improve the Porker monoblocs but not available yet. Guido (boss of Movit) sits every night and puts new ideas about brakes on paper and produces prototypes etc. He's more than dedicated.

As I said it's not worth going to bigger disc. Not only the stopping power can easily exceed those of the tyres but also the whole construction of the hub, bearings is not up to the job.

Look I could tell you to get the 380mm kit for DEM xxx but I'm not interested in recommending a kit to you which you wouldn't need. I'm also not employed by Movit but Movit only does top stuff and is really worth taking into serious consideration.

If you want I can still ask if the above pictured kit would fit an EVO. But you won't need it especially on your light RS. If it can stop my heavy TME RSII (not as heavy as Claudius' ) it is easily enough for you.

Hope this helps

Mike

 

Thanks for the info mike,

Actually I don't plan to change my brakes for the moment, because of the price, but I was talking for Claudius.

I notice the shape of the disc too and they look great!

Are these discs also avaible grooved?

When I talk about big discs I don't mean 380mm but just 6 pot calipers with the discs that would fit 18"rims 362 or 374 or something like that.
About the stopping power I think that it could be more than we need, but I don't think that it would not improve the breaking.

For example a porsche gt2 brakes better than a turbo, so if you have a 4wd evo with ohlins, 18 inches magnesium wheels with road legal slicks and the 6pot gt2 calipers it will do the job!

I don't say that 4pots are **** or whatever, but I believe that
for the ultimate evo, without talking about the price, you can do much better. That's why tommi use 8 pot lc!

 

BTW these discs really look nice!

 

these brakes really look like overkill to me. Allright, if you want to build a racing machine with new suspension, hubs, etc. then these brakes might be worth a consideration.

 

I agree!! If you have money to blow then go ahead but I really don't see the point. A 6-pot AP racing kit will do the job just as good for a fraction of the price. Fit decent carbon-metallic pads and you will be very satisfied with the result.

The problem with these "ceramic" discs is the amount of time it takes to produce them...hence the high price. After the carbon disc is finished it has to be placed in an autoclave(I hope thats how you call it in English!) at around 4000deg C. At that temperature the carbon fibre begins to absorb the liquid ceramic solution which when back to room temperature will give the disc its streangth. The final molecular set up of the disc is very similar to dimond!

 

Dino, these ain't ceramic, but steel discs. Still too big and the Movit 4-pot system or AP 6-pot should be more than enough. Well, maybe a Movit 6-pot with a big disc

 

Doh!

Well, way too expensive still!! Someone was recently doing a group buy from AP and got some of the UK car clubs/registers involved. He managed to get some seriously low prices...to give an example an R34 GTR 6-pot kit was 1200 pounds!

There is no way a sane person would fork out such a big amount of dosh for Move it systems....unless he/she is a big showoff
Wouldn't "Stop-it" be a more appropriate name than Move-it???

 

Dino, the Movit brakes are actually very good and cost less than AP's, the ones in the picture aren't actually what you'd fit on an Evo anyway.

 

I now run on techno2 group n discs these are better quality than standard discs

http://www.tecno2.co.uk/main.htm
http://www.tecno2.it

just don t buy standard brembo discs anymore when you warped them. techno 2 are cheaper and better quality

i use ferodo ds3000 cutdown pads special made for the group n series (i can post the order number for who is interested)

this will stop just as good as ap 6pots or movit

if you use a bigger brake setup you can use pads wich are less hard on the discs

if you want the same braking power with the standard system go for ds3000 or ds3000 plus these pads are even better than performace friction

my discs still look good they are still 32mm thick

80 % of WRC cars us DS3000

you just have to clean youre wheels more often thats all
but it saves you a lot of money

andre