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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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Aftermarket Intakes Voiding Warranty?!?!?!

So I was at the dealer yesterday trying to get the no-start TSB taken care of and one of the mechanics came over to me to warn me about my RRM V2 SRI. What he told me was that at one of the service centers, they had a couple lancers with aftermarket drop in filters and intakes that were not starting. He said something about the filters allowing smaller particles into the engine and clogging up some port used by the MIVEC system. And the only way to fix it was to take out the engine to attempt to remove the plug or replace whatever part it is that got clogged. He also told me that, if I were to bring in my car for service, and it was a MIVEC related issue and I still had the SRI installed, would void my warranty.

Idk what products those few cases had in them that caused this problem. But my question is, does the filter on the RRM V2 SRI stop smaller particles than the stock filter???

Maybe RRM can give us some spec sheets on the filters???
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:10 AM
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That sounds like a bunch of BULL if you ask me. bring in the TSB on the no start issue if they give you any problem.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...t=official+tsb
Read through this and inform yourself before walking back in there and believing whoever told you this.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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I didn't have a problem with them doing the TSB for the no-start, they tried reflashing the computer but they couldn't get their computer communicating with my car so I have to bring it back at some point so they can have some more time with it.

This was more of the mechanic warning me of a problem that he saw with other cars. He ran out to catch me before I drove away.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kalpakiotis
I didn't have a problem with them doing the TSB for the no-start, they tried reflashing the computer but they couldn't get their computer communicating with my car so I have to bring it back at some point so they can have some more time with it.

This was more of the mechanic warning me of a problem that he saw with other cars. He ran out to catch me before I drove away.
there is nothing that is "clogging" any sensor for mivec with an aftermarket intake or filter. He is completely lying. Mitsu dealers around me are notorious for saying this crap. Unfortunately, I would recommend you remove the intake for any service there as they clearly are targeting you.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:31 AM
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Anyways, I'm not trying to argue if the filter does or doesn't clog the engine, I'm just looking for spec sheets of both filters to make a comparison in order to be more self informed. I do plan on changing out the intake when ever i go back to the dealer. If you can provide that info, great. Else, I think the topic of dealers screwing people has already been covered.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kalpakiotis
What he told me was that at one of the service centers, they had a couple lancers with aftermarket drop in filters and intakes that were not starting. He said something about the filters allowing smaller particles into the engine and clogging up some port used by the MIVEC system. And the only way to fix it was to take out the engine to attempt to remove the plug or replace whatever part it is that got clogged. He also told me that, if I were to bring in my car for service, and it was a MIVEC related issue and I still had the SRI installed, would void my warranty.

Maybe RRM can give us some spec sheets on the filters???
Haha...You should laugh and then find another person to talk to who knows their primary colors and the alphabet which will probably be at another dealership.

Response you should give to him, "Now I'm just being hypathetical because I know no Evo owner voids their warranty but lets just say for sake of argument that someone would want a larger turbo on their car and may not even run a filter at all, how do their cars start? ...magic?"

I don't see even if that is the problem that removing the engine is anywhere near necessary. You can do pretty much anything with it still in the car aside from actually replacing the block (given).
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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ok, so lets say you use two different oil filters. One filters up to 25micron particles, and the other filters up to 1micron particles. Which one will get the greater damage over the long run? Same thing with this. It's not that the engine wont start the first time, but given enough time buildup does occur. And it's when that buildup occurs that you start having problems.

Personally I havn't had any problems with my SRI. I don't know the circumstances of what this mechanic was talking about. All I am looking for are spec sheets. I havnt been able to find any.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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they told me my clutch was non adjustable and that it adjusted itself lmao
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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my dealer service dept and the technician both told me i couldnt upgrade my rockford fosgate radio to the stock navigation. that it was impossible and that it would have to come from mitsubishi like that...the tech was right there and i asked him several times and he said no each time...they also said they dont know how to write a vin number to the car...all of this info can be found in the service manual.


point is, don't always believe what your dealer/tech says, if your worried about your intake , take it off before going, it seriously takes about 15-25 minutes. Just try to line up the sharpie lines as close as possible so they don't complain about that either. also consider going to another dealer...you already know this dealer's opinion on aftermarket parts and you already know that their techs dont know what they are talking about.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 04:05 AM
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All valid points, but I don't believe my dealer cares that much about the after market parts. I have brought my car to them multiple times with the sri installed and they never complained. The service manager is a pretty cool guy. This was the first time one of the mechanics informed me of any problems. My only interest here is a comparison between the filters. Being an engineer, I have seen cases where simple stuff has major repercussions. I'm not concerned that the filter isn't doing a better job than the stock one, I want to see by how much.

Knowledge is power!
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 04:18 AM
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I thinks its apparent that no matter how silly, stupid or idiotic the dealers are when it comes to warranty issues they have the last word. At the very least it will cost you more time and money then its worth to get very little if anything and likely get nothing at all in the way of satifaction from Mitsubishi. Play the game; remove your aftermarket stuff when bringing the car in and work the system the same way the dealer does...make it hard. The dealers are looking for any excuse to void warranty and save money. So make it harder for them to find excuses. It's worked for me.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kalpakiotis
All valid points, but I don't believe my dealer cares that much about the after market parts. I have brought my car to them multiple times with the sri installed and they never complained. The service manager is a pretty cool guy. This was the first time one of the mechanics informed me of any problems. My only interest here is a comparison between the filters. Being an engineer, I have seen cases where simple stuff has major repercussions. I'm not concerned that the filter isn't doing a better job than the stock one, I want to see by how much.

Knowledge is power!

I understand what you are saying, i too am an engineer. If you really are concerned with the performance of your filter than switch to k&n. I am on my 3rd car and my 3rd k&n filter. in my 1994 blazer the k&n worked great, in my 01 bravada it increased mpg by 4-6. and in my 2009 gts I get 27 mpg no matter how i drive (and i calculate it based on total miles/#gal when i fill up not by computer readout) and 30mpg when i drive normal and all highway.
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