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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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+1 to Amby, we don't want to see you waste your money, but if you want to go another way with some crazy idea, and it works, I have no problem believing you. I'm not sure what you're talkin about when you say that whenever other ppl do somethin they are told that they don't know what they're talkin about. I've seen people thrown out stupid ideas and get told that they're dumb, but never been called dumb after they have accomplished something. I mean, if you want to invest you're money into something you feel worthwhile, you go for it, but again, to go back and agree with Amby, ur giving an old man a jersey and telling him to go play basketball in the NBA dude, ur engine is topping out.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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All this being said, if you're going to do it, do it right, don't cut any corners. If reliability is an issue get new rods and new pistons. Upgrade the head as best you can (better valves, valve springs, retainers, etc.), get everything professionally installed and get it tuned conservatively.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
All this being said, if you're going to do it, do it right, don't cut any corners. If reliability is an issue get new rods and new pistons. Upgrade the head as best you can (better valves, valve springs, retainers, etc.), get everything professionally installed and get it tuned conservatively.
I thought about upgrading pistons and rods but decided against. I am definately going to do everything right the first time. I will have the local shop install everything at once. The mods I am getting right now are:

RRM's Stage 2 P&P'ed Head
RRM Camshaft (the more aggressive)
RRM Ported IM
RRM Ported TB
Custom 2.25" Downpipe
SAFC Neo tuned for these mods
And might do a couple suspension and a new grille in the near future.

I have confidence in what I am doing. I am not going to be tearing the streets up but it will give me a fun/reliable DD without too much money into it.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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I would still do the rods and pistons both for reliability and to make the car a better NA car. With the low stock compression (9.5:1) you won't make a lot of power NA, this is why hondas are relatively high compression (10:1 or higher). For a camshaft I would go with RPW not RRM, RRM makes great turbo parts but for NA RPW is king. I and others do not like the idea of using the same cam profile for an NA motor and a turbo motor, there are compromises that reduce the power either would make with a profile specific for their application. For tuning I would go with something more complete than the SAFC, maybe a greddy emanage or even a Haltech unit.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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I would recommend the mirage IM also, have the port and polished, and you could sound better, and get more air to throttle body, thus increasing power, not to mention the pretty kick *** sound
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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I had already tried the 4G93 manifold and a lot of people have luck with them but I didn't like the powerband whatsoever. I would love to do high compression pistons but wouldn't the install on those be insane? How much more work is it to put pistons in? I will look into RPW for the cams.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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No different than any other piston install. Ask Mirage 2.0 for more info, he has 11.0:1 pistons if I recall correctly.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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hey i just wanted to say, that i have also beat a couple cars that u r talking about, but thats b4 i got my rims, i had beat a civic ex,mustang v6,integra ls, the reason i beat the integra is becuz they have no top end(but ur car looks (by the video)slower than mine was so i dont think you can beat those car with those big rims)i can really close to losing the teggy but he came only to my fender, but i would have to say dont even bother fixing up the lancer for power, its not worth it , just buy a lil project honda shell(300) and just build an ls-v(b18 block with b16 head,500) and it should run high 13's at na, thats what im going to do

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Cool, I think though that pistons + install just for them might be $1500+. We will see, I would love to do the RPW 11.5-1 or even the 11.0-1 as that would make the motor real peppy when combined with everything else.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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11.0:1 is probably the highest you can go without getting into serious fuel issues, ie. needing 94 or higher octane fuel.
sa_town_ridah, beating a car isn't as simple as just beating it, you have to actually race it. This means from a stop and with two competent drivers. If we went by just passing someone, my WRX is slower than a Dodge 1500 because yesterday I was passed by one. I was also in 5th gear at about 2000 RPM. According to the chart I posted an integra is a 16 second car. An NA lancer (without a lot of mods) is not.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
11.0:1 is probably the highest you can go without getting into serious fuel issues, ie. needing 94 or higher octane fuel.
sa_town_ridah, beating a car isn't as simple as just beating it, you have to actually race it. This means from a stop and with two competent drivers. If we went by just passing someone, my WRX is slower than a Dodge 1500 because yesterday I was passed by one. I was also in 5th gear at about 2000 RPM. According to the chart I posted an integra is a 16 second car. An NA lancer (without a lot of mods) is not.
okay first of all i did do this , from a roll, and teggys are not!!! 16 sec cars stock, a coupe friends have them, and even a galant es (best friend) beat another friend in his interga (i live in a city full of hondas, and i know almost everyone of them)and that mustang was revving at me like a ricer at the red light , so he floored it (you can c him shifting as fast as he could) b i still got him,hahaha
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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here in san antonio we set up car meet's every other day(3 times a week) an around 100+ cars go and after that everyone goes to a secret place to race
http://s73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...t=DSCN1630.flv
(half of the parking lot at target was full , and still more coming)

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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According to the info available they are 16 second cars. A mustang should also be faster than a lancer, key word, should, as far as we know the driver was horrible.

1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.4 14.9
1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6
1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.2 14.8
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.9 14.5
1993 Ford Mustang GT (auto) 8.0 16.1
1994 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.1 14.9 (C&D Dec '93)
1995 Ford Mustang 3.8 9.9 17.3
1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R 5.2 13.8
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1998 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 14.0
1999 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 13.9
1999 Ford Mustang Convertible V6 8.6 16.5
1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.1
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2005 Ford Mustang GT V-6 6.9 15.3 (C&D Feb '05)
2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 5.1 13.5 (MT Jan '05)
2005 Ford Mustang GT Convertible 5.2 13.8 (MT Apr '05)
2001 Ford Mustang Roush Stage 3 4.3 12.9
1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 5.7 13.9
1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 428ci 5.7 14.3 (C&D Nov '68)
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (5 Speed) 4.7 13.2 (MT Feb '05)
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (Auto) 5.6 13.88 (MT Apr '04)
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT 5.0 13.6 (MT Online)
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Convertible 4.5 12.9 (R&T Jan '06)
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-H 5.3 13.9 (C&D Nov '06)

Slowest one looks to be a 16.5.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sa town ridah
here in san antonio we set up car meet's every other day(3 times a week) an around 100+ cars go and after that everyone goes to a secret place to race
http://s73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...t=DSCN1630.flv
If that's a street racing video take it down....NOW.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
If that's a street racing video take it down....NOW.
nope its not a street racing vid its a car meet vid
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