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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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I REALLY hope Nissan releases a Silvia s16. But I REALLY hope it doesn't look like that

The Silvia s15 is such a hot looking car. Why can't they just build on its looks?
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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I also hope they leaveit as a drifter
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Hey... I never said it was a great motor, just that they would probably use it, since it's their shiny new corporate 4cyl. The KA24 wasn't exactly the best thing on earth either, why do you think all the serious guys swapped to an SR20?

If I were Nissan, I'd come out with a shorter stroke version of the QR - like a QR20 with a MUCH stronger bottom end, and go forced induction. Who knows though...
the serious guys build their KAs. Built KA will own an SR pound boost or pound boost if only for the extra displacement. Unfortunately, a KA is more prone to spin a rod bearing due to its long stroke (leverage is a funny thing).

Anyways, if Nissan ended up using a QR (which I would bet money on that they would), it wouldn't be in the shape you see the Spec V's QR. If you compared the old SE-R that got the FWD SR to a RWD SR, the differences are night and day. They shared the same name if only for the fact that they looked similar and had the same style valve train, and the bore and stroke were identical. Everything else was different. A FWD SR head will not fit a RWD SR block, and I want to say the only major internal that will swap are the rod/pistons, and the timing chain.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by platinumspecv
I also hope they leaveit as a drifter
the original silvia was never intended to be a drifter, it was just that later in its production run, people found that with just a few suspension upgrades, you could make one get very tail happy. From the factory, a Silvia is very understeery.

I will say that an S chassis car feels much better when driven for grip, than when driven drift. The car is so well balanced that making it drift can almost feel like a sin (did i just say that?)
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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nissan canned the sr do to emission reasons
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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nissan canned the sr do to emission reasons
I believe so too. The Japanese gov't passed stricter emission standards which killed the SR and the RB for TC application. That's why the future Supra, if ever, won't be TC but a V8 based off the Q45. It's the same for Mitsu, but Evo owners don't want to hear it. The writing is on the wall, unless doing 3 cat-converters like Suby and the Virage in Taiwan.


Originally Posted by tenkawa_akito
Mazdaspeed Miata. D2C Mustang. Any of your barely above entry level sportscars. Given the number of FWD sports cars in America right now, the S chassis doesn't have many competitors for the RWD niche.
I don't see the demograpics of miata and 'stangs owners turning towards the S16. Both are vastly different. It's why I see the S16 will compete in the market against the RSX or Cavvy for future owners. Look at the age group being targetted and spending power. Now, look at typical miata or 'stang owners . . . do they even remotely look to be future owners of either low end sport coupes like the S16?

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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bahamut
I believe so too. The Japanese gov't passed stricter emission standards which killed the SR and the RB for TC application. That's why the future Supra, if ever, won't be TC but a V8 based off the Q45. It's the same for Mitsu, but Evo owners don't want to hear it. The writing is on the wall, unless doing 3 cat-converters like Suby and the Virage in Taiwan.
Mitsu passed CA emissions with the 4G93; Japan's quite a ways behind CA in terms of restrictive emissions. Eventually the only thing that will pass will be lean-burn 4 bangers, but hopefully that's after I'm dead.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bahamut
I don't see the demograpics of miata and 'stangs owners turning towards the S16. Both are vastly different. It's why I see the S16 will compete in the market against the RSX or Cavvy for future owners. Look at the age group being targetted and spending power. Now, look at typical miata or 'stang owners . . . do they even remotely look to be future owners of either low end sport coupes like the S16?
I was only listing off the RWD competition for the entry level market. A new S chassis would basically be competing against most of the other entry level sports compacts, but if Nissan targets the same demographic as last time, it won't be the young male with some disposable income, it will be girls who are looking to get their first cars (that was the last demographic targeted for the S13 and S14 in america)

Also, why would the supra have a Nissan engine
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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Looks to spacy to me..
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Initial unofficial releases suggest that the S16 will be FWD and N/A :wtc:
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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It is just horrible comepare to slip looking of S-15
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tenkawa_akito
the original silvia was never intended to be a drifter, it was just that later in its production run, people found that with just a few suspension upgrades, you could make one get very tail happy. From the factory, a Silvia is very understeery.

Correct. but the easiest mods are coilovers and castor rods, then you have the ultimate weapon.. and a few good parts about S13s are that basically everything from my Silvia will bolt into a 180 and vice versa.. suspension, gearboxes, engines, seats.. now why didn't anyone else do this >?
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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If these cars make it here, it will be sweet .
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rexhunta
Correct. but the easiest mods are coilovers and castor rods, then you have the ultimate weapon.. and a few good parts about S13s are that basically everything from my Silvia will bolt into a 180 and vice versa.. suspension, gearboxes, engines, seats.. now why didn't anyone else do this >?
don't forget you can steal quite a bit of stuff from the Zeds and skylines. Chris and Eon better watch out.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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I'd still rather have the last model year 180SX. I love that hatchback.
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