Damn! R34
Originally Posted by JNasty4G63
No, someone explained it earlier in the post. The driver of the car was the car owner's son. He was 20, and his gf was the 15 yr old. The girl's dad was the 33yr old.
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1. the driver was the son of the owner
2. the 33 yr old had a 15 yr old pregnant gf
read again folks...if in doubt read twice.
Originally Posted by T_REX02
not that i care but he wasn't calling the girl and her baby trash......he was calling the older guy trash because he can't find a girl in his age bracket....child molestor..
correct....as far as I know the age of consent is 18 in most of the USA and some states have 16 but none as far as I know go below that. So, statutory rape is any sex (even consensual) with a person under that age. So yeah, the guy must have been some weird molester. If I was that girls dad I would have taken care of that guy if the crash didn't
Originally Posted by JNasty4G63
No, someone explained it earlier in the post. The driver of the car was the car owner's son. He was 20, and his gf was the 15 yr old. The girl's dad was the 33yr old.
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The driver was 20, There was also a 33yr old man and his 15 year old GIRLFRIEND in the car. 3 people, not legally related in any way to eachother. None were brother and sister, father and daughter, etc, etc, etc..... Driver, 33yr old man, 15yr old girlfriend... that's it. The father of the 20 year old boy, and the owner of the car, was away on business at the time.
- Jason
read the article, they're in australia. and the laws are different there. they had a quote from the 15y/o girls mom, and she was heartbroken about losing her daughter and son in law. It's a weird situation, but don't go just blasting people for doing something that may be wrong here, but not in the country where they live. No way am I endorsing 30 yo men going out and trying to knock up h/s girls...
15 year olds shouldn't have kids anyways.
people die every day, maybe we should start a thread to talk about it and feel sad, that would be neat huh,
sniff, sniff, anyone have any tissue.
people die every day, maybe we should start a thread to talk about it and feel sad, that would be neat huh,
sniff, sniff, anyone have any tissue.
Originally Posted by LancerOZ
No, No, No.... it shocks me how many people can't read. Didn't everyone else have to take those reading comprehension tests in HS to make sure you could read and understand the information within a story?
The driver was 20, There was also a 33yr old man and his 15 year old GIRLFRIEND in the car. 3 people, not legally related in any way to eachother. None were brother and sister, father and daughter, etc, etc, etc..... Driver, 33yr old man, 15yr old girlfriend... that's it. The father of the 20 year old boy, and the owner of the car, was away on business at the time.
- Jason
The driver was 20, There was also a 33yr old man and his 15 year old GIRLFRIEND in the car. 3 people, not legally related in any way to eachother. None were brother and sister, father and daughter, etc, etc, etc..... Driver, 33yr old man, 15yr old girlfriend... that's it. The father of the 20 year old boy, and the owner of the car, was away on business at the time.
- Jason
Originally Posted by EVOL 8
Glad I'm not the only one getting irritated by people's reading skills...I've only had to explain it 3 times.
Originally Posted by sophic
15 year olds shouldn't have kids anyways.
people die every day, maybe we should start a thread to talk about it and feel sad, that would be neat huh,
sniff, sniff, anyone have any tissue.
people die every day, maybe we should start a thread to talk about it and feel sad, that would be neat huh,
sniff, sniff, anyone have any tissue.
Not that I think its right, but in other countries (young girls) are considered woman at a young age.
This story is very sad because i get a picture in my head that the kid was bragging to these two about how badass the car was. You shouldnt even put yourself or anyone for that matter in that kind of situation. I had a friend do this too me. I have been in a car accident were my friend was doing 120mph at night on a back road. I felt very uncomfortable and told him to slow down. Next thing I know we come up on a turn and he trys to take the turn without braking putting the car into a slide. Ended up sliding off the road @ 110+mph hitting a inclined driveway and lauching over 40 fts and almost killing us both. One of the scariest days of my life.
DUMB PEOPLE SUCK!
Originally Posted by cet_euro
That is crazy.....Street racing will do that to people.... On 8.13.1999 I lost my sister in a crash. She was only 16 years old. One month before her birthday....We are only 2 kids to the family and now it's just me. I was in the car waiting for her to come in so we can go out to eat something with our friends. My other friend that was playing around with his Honda in the street came with about 50 mph and slamed into my sister and into the side of my car. One thing that I hate is when people street race. Stupid, and what is the point...? To show how stupid you are? Please people be carefull....... Don't street race....
Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
15 year olds were having babies long before we were ever on this planet.
Not that I think its right, but in other countries (young girls) are considered woman at a young age.
Not that I think its right, but in other countries (young girls) are considered woman at a young age.
no 15 year old in today's world is prepared to bear offspring... NONE... when you comment about other countries, your talking about those that have a GNP of $3.15?
i'm sorry about the baby, but to be honest i'm not sorry for anyone else...
just a note i found on this crash and p-plates in general...
There seems to be an epidemic of P-plate drivers killed or injured in car crashes. Every story of a teenager killed on the road is heart-rending. But the surprising fact is that there are fewer fatal accidents of P-plate drivers per capita than ever before.
So, before Bob Carr's Government feels compelled to impose a knee-jerk set of laws to corral young drivers, a cool assessment of the facts may be in order.
In 1992 the crash rate of novice drivers - those on L and P plates - was 28 crashes per 100,000 licences, RTA figures show. In 2002, the number had dropped to 19, a 30 per cent reduction.
So, while it is true that P-plate drivers are more than twice as likely to be involved in crashes as people over the age of 26, it is not true to say we are experiencing a sudden crisis which requires new regulation.
We can't blame irresponsible parents or poor schooling or rap music or Xbox driving games for an increase in recklessness among young drivers, because there appears to have been no increase.
In any case, who is to say new laws are the answer? A recent Victorian Government idea to alter the speedometers of new cars so they can show a top speed of no more than 130kmh, no matter how fast the car is travelling, is one of the nuttier regulations proposed. But there is no telling what else politicians may have in store if given the green light.
Rik Shepherd, a South Coast advanced driving instructor, is convinced after 15 years of teaching people to be more careful on the road that there is no way to "legislate against human stupidity".
"There will always be fatal road crashes and young people will always be over-represented," the former Keiraville paramedic said. "People do not realise how poor a driver they are until it's too late."
He believes tougher licensing standards and incentives for responsible drivers are needed. But he warned that advanced driving courses being urged by the NSW Opposition might not be the answer for young people. Instead of protecting novice drivers, the courses might instil a heightened sense of confidence and "perception of invulnerability".
In one of the most recent fatal crashes involving a P-plate driver, 20-year-old Emile Dousset was driving a Nissan Skyline GT-R on a straight stretch of road at Lisarow with a 50 kmh speed limit when the car became airborne at speeds police estimate were close to 200kmh. The high-performance car hit a power pole and split in two, killing Dousset and his friends: 33-year-old Carl Homer, his 15-year-old pregnant girlfriend, Natasha Schyf, and their unborn son.
As callers to talkback radio pointed out last week, there is already a law prohibiting drivers from driving over the speed limit, and Dousset's father, who owned the car, has said he had banned his son from driving it.
It's doubtful any additional law would have prevented the tragedy. Many young men seem genetically programmed for risky behaviour, with teenage boys twice as likely to die on the roads as girls. Tying the motoring community up in more red tape and imposing ever more draconian fines won't change that.
One factor driving a perception of crisis may be that young people are on their P-plates three times longer than their parents were. The more stringent licensing requirements for novice drivers came into force in 2000. After graduating from L plates, new drivers must hold a P1 licence (red P plate) for at least 12 months and pass a computerised hazard perception test before graduating to a P2 licence (green P plate) for at least 24 months and then pass another computer test to qualify for their full licence.
Roads Minister Carl Scully is due to release a discussion paper of options to reduce P-plate driver fatalities. There may be a case to stop novices driving high-powered or heavy four-wheel-drive vehicles. But, as a spokesman for Scully said on Friday, the only real way to prevent all car crashes is to ban cars.
There seems to be an epidemic of P-plate drivers killed or injured in car crashes. Every story of a teenager killed on the road is heart-rending. But the surprising fact is that there are fewer fatal accidents of P-plate drivers per capita than ever before.
So, before Bob Carr's Government feels compelled to impose a knee-jerk set of laws to corral young drivers, a cool assessment of the facts may be in order.
In 1992 the crash rate of novice drivers - those on L and P plates - was 28 crashes per 100,000 licences, RTA figures show. In 2002, the number had dropped to 19, a 30 per cent reduction.
So, while it is true that P-plate drivers are more than twice as likely to be involved in crashes as people over the age of 26, it is not true to say we are experiencing a sudden crisis which requires new regulation.
We can't blame irresponsible parents or poor schooling or rap music or Xbox driving games for an increase in recklessness among young drivers, because there appears to have been no increase.
In any case, who is to say new laws are the answer? A recent Victorian Government idea to alter the speedometers of new cars so they can show a top speed of no more than 130kmh, no matter how fast the car is travelling, is one of the nuttier regulations proposed. But there is no telling what else politicians may have in store if given the green light.
Rik Shepherd, a South Coast advanced driving instructor, is convinced after 15 years of teaching people to be more careful on the road that there is no way to "legislate against human stupidity".
"There will always be fatal road crashes and young people will always be over-represented," the former Keiraville paramedic said. "People do not realise how poor a driver they are until it's too late."
He believes tougher licensing standards and incentives for responsible drivers are needed. But he warned that advanced driving courses being urged by the NSW Opposition might not be the answer for young people. Instead of protecting novice drivers, the courses might instil a heightened sense of confidence and "perception of invulnerability".
In one of the most recent fatal crashes involving a P-plate driver, 20-year-old Emile Dousset was driving a Nissan Skyline GT-R on a straight stretch of road at Lisarow with a 50 kmh speed limit when the car became airborne at speeds police estimate were close to 200kmh. The high-performance car hit a power pole and split in two, killing Dousset and his friends: 33-year-old Carl Homer, his 15-year-old pregnant girlfriend, Natasha Schyf, and their unborn son.
As callers to talkback radio pointed out last week, there is already a law prohibiting drivers from driving over the speed limit, and Dousset's father, who owned the car, has said he had banned his son from driving it.
It's doubtful any additional law would have prevented the tragedy. Many young men seem genetically programmed for risky behaviour, with teenage boys twice as likely to die on the roads as girls. Tying the motoring community up in more red tape and imposing ever more draconian fines won't change that.
One factor driving a perception of crisis may be that young people are on their P-plates three times longer than their parents were. The more stringent licensing requirements for novice drivers came into force in 2000. After graduating from L plates, new drivers must hold a P1 licence (red P plate) for at least 12 months and pass a computerised hazard perception test before graduating to a P2 licence (green P plate) for at least 24 months and then pass another computer test to qualify for their full licence.
Roads Minister Carl Scully is due to release a discussion paper of options to reduce P-plate driver fatalities. There may be a case to stop novices driving high-powered or heavy four-wheel-drive vehicles. But, as a spokesman for Scully said on Friday, the only real way to prevent all car crashes is to ban cars.
Originally Posted by Jadiem
no 15 year old in today's world is prepared to bear offspring... NONE... when you comment about other countries, your talking about those that have a GNP of $3.15?
i'm sorry about the baby, but to be honest i'm not sorry for anyone else...
i'm sorry about the baby, but to be honest i'm not sorry for anyone else...
As far as the other people in the car, think about it. What were the chances the 15 year old pregnant girl said " lets see how fast we can go". She was probably scared out of her mind. I feel sorry for everyone involved including the dad who could have taken the keys with him.
And remember we may be the most freedom loving country, but we have the most laws out of any. They still have horse and buggy laws on the books and use those laws in car accident settlements still to date.
I dont think the countries Gross National Product has anything to do with their customs.
Last edited by EVOONYOASS; Dec 3, 2004 at 05:03 PM.


