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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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aluminum block...can't raise boost before melting...thats why i took an evo..don't wanna sleave a motor.....please correct me if i'm wrong
hmmm crank...ok...sure whatever happened to forged pistons and rods....

srt-4 vs cobalt...oops i mean SS...
can't wait for evo vs cobalt ...my cobalt is faster...beat an evo from a roll...crap like that...

I would definitely though love to see the warranty...if they do ...

But in all seriousness kudos for chevy for the cobalt...should of given a better name...
Can't wait to see a company tune the computer and up the blower and belts .....Supercharger is great on V8s but on a 4...well see...
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Cant remember what Motor Trend said (the mag is somewhere here) but I can reference Sept 2004 Road and Track where the Srt4 and Ion Redline were ran together at layout No. 13 Buttonwillow. Motor Trend states quite the opposite on the Ion Redlines handling.

Refering to the track, "Revealing the true nature of these cars isn't easy on the street, but on the track it becomes clear in an instant. What Dodge makes in a straight line the Saturn buys back in the corners. The Saturn is better balanced and more suited for hard use. The suspension is compliant, yet allows the driver to change vehicle attitude with moderate steering and throttle."

Furthermore, "The Saturn has a superior ride quality, easily soaking up bumps and undulations...." This shows me that the suspension ins't as bad as many people think.

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Latteral Acceleration (200ft skidpad): 0.85g
Speed thru 700ft slalom: 67.3
Blance: Moderate Understeer
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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oil life this car blows
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysixer
Youd think theyd make it just abit faster to beat the srt4.
Come on now...NOTHING beats the SRT-4, everyone should know that by now!
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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motortrend already reviewed the car. on paper it kicks ****. not as fast as the dodge, but handles much better. would rather have the cobalt than the rsx, easy. and the tranny was supposedly reworked for the chevy with better gear ratios, which'll put it ahead in the 1320.

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=223934
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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just IMO, but...

wrx > ss
srt4 > ss
rsx-s w/ bolt ons > ss
specV w/ bolt ons > ss
ralliart w/ bolt ons > ss

it has similar pricing to a wrx, what would you buy? It cost more than a srt4, but doesnt have better performance, what would you buy? Same price as a rsx-s, runs similar time... but the rsx exterior/interior blow the ss out the water. SpecV/Ralliart, yeah they'll need bolt ons to keep up, but MMNA R/D team is looking @ putting a turbo on the ralliart and selling it on the market (ask rob from RRM), if that finalizes.

Turbo Ralliart > SS
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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I wouldn't buy it, it's not significantly better in any department to warrant buying it against its competitors. Plus I think it's ugly. I think GM is on the right track though!
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Anyone figure out yet that it's geared towards getting more females into cars and performance, it's about time someone designed a cute girly car to hang with us other sport compacts, not saying it's faster, or better, or anything, it's just cute and sporty, whereas the rest of us are all mean and sporty...oh except the Evo IX, it's kinda girly looking too, but just the rear end...plus, a younger sibling to the C6...younger sibling to Viper...sounds similar...maybe...
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Arithmetic
just IMO, but...

wrx > ss
srt4 > ss
according to motortrend... the SS handles MUCH better than the srt4. brakes better than the wrx, and probably handles better stock-for-stock anyway. i agree, the wrx>ss, but seriously, the msrp of the wrx (24,895)>>>>>>>>>>ss(21,995)~srt-4 (21,195).

Originally Posted by Arithmetic
rsx-s w/ bolt ons > ss
specV w/ bolt ons > ss
ralliart w/ bolt ons > ss
modded vs. stock? you're joking right? what is this, a honda site? bolt on upgrades in the SS will decimate the rsx, specv, and ralliart as factory FI w/bolt ons will do to NA w/bolt ons (in the world of 4 bangers of course). the RSX-S price is like 2k more than the ss anyway.

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it has similar pricing to a wrx, what would you buy?
it doesn't.

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It cost more than a srt4, but doesnt have better performance, what would you buy?
barely costs more. the ss handles better. this is an evo site. obviously if we wanted power instead of handling we would've gotten the sti. so no, i don't think the srt-4 out performs the SS. it's got more power, sure, but on a road course? i'd rather have the SS, which slaloms 69 mph.

Originally Posted by Arithmetic
Same price as a rsx-s, runs similar time...
mid 14's is similar to low 15's? i didn't know that.... and the rsx handles worse too.

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but the rsx exterior/interior blow the ss out the water.
this is an evo/lancer site. i don't know how many people really care about things like the interior.... which, i'd disagree about anyway... i don't think the rsx blows it out of the water... in fact i don't much care for the rsx-s's interior at all.. hyped up civic if you ask me. "fake" recaros that so many people consider "real" but the acura is better looking outside i'll agree there.

Originally Posted by Arithmetic
SpecV/Ralliart, yeah they'll need bolt ons to keep up, but MMNA R/D team is looking @ putting a turbo on the ralliart and selling it on the market (ask rob from RRM), if that finalizes.

Turbo Ralliart > SS
haha... first mods vs stock, and now non-existent cars vs. real cars now?
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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haha... first mods vs stock, and now non-existent cars vs. real cars now?


Who would win in a fight, the Cobalt SS or Ditka?????

DITKA!!!!



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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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I don't think the Cobalt is too bad, but I don't think renaming the Cavalier is going to fool people any more than pretending that the SRT-4 isn't a Neon.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Arithmetic
rsx-s w/ bolt ons > ss
specV w/ bolt ons > ss
ralliart w/ bolt ons > ss
RALLIART>SS please great thought but as much as i don't like it.. you think they wont have a aftermarket for this car?

sorry guy wake up... spec v, rsx, ralliarts are not even in the cobalts class... you better put on a LOT of bolt ons to keep up... remember you can add a turbo kit all you want... its STILL FACTORY SUPERCHARGED..... which mean while your working out issues with your "bolt on turbo-kit" he/she is driving.....

PS... yea let us know when that "turbo ralliart" comes out.. oh it already is... its called a EVO.......
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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pretty decent car for a newbie entering the sport, however it doesn't have recaros like the saturn ION redline & i think it weighs a little more also. heck my 1st car was a 92 eclipse na. i'm sure the cobalt ss will walk that car.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
.....but I don't think renaming the Cavalier is going to fool people any more than pretending that the SRT-4 isn't a Neon.
But, the Cobalt is an entirely new car. Why not start fresh and dump the old name. The SRT-4 is just a fast Neon, not a new car. I've never been much of a Chevy guy, but I think this thing is pretty nice looking. Sure, there are cars out there that might be faster, handle better, have a better interior, or look nicer on the outside. But, what you get for $21k is pretty hard to argue with. I dig it.

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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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The General is finally getting a clue. Notice the G6 as well. You'll never see me near one, but it's a much needed step up from the Grand Am.

Heck, look at the STS -- they didn't hit the mark, but they took one helluva swing at Germany.

I wrote quite a bit on the Cobalt SS a while back if anyone wants to dig up my comments. They know who they're going after and it really isn't SRT-4 or WRX buyers. And they'll probably fare quite well with it as long as there aren't rampant quality issues or questionable safety.
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