I watched that video, and was wondering if it was even possible to spin an RL if you did something stupid like completely lift off the throttle mid-corner. Did you give that a try?

 

MrCronoHunter, like i said all forms of racing not just Rally. Last i can remember EVO wasn't dominating Rally with they "superior" AWD system. You cant hate on Audi for being innovators , Audi started AWD in Rally. If every other manufacture follows they will do something else. And by the way Audi pull out their group B rally cars because they were too fast and killing people because spectators couldn't stay off the stages. I can supply you a with literature and video's if you like. let me know.

 

While it is true that much respect and credit needs to be given to Audi for showing the rest of the racing world (rally and otherwise) how powerful AWD is, the sad truth is that the only thing left of the Audi racing legacy for us consumers are a bunch of heavy, overpriced, understeering and underperforming sedans (A3 excluded). Which is probably the same reason why Evos continue to do very well in Group-N along with the Subies, but Audi is nowhere in sight...

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BADquattro, I don't know, the way you write and act it would be ill-literature

I'm well acquainted withe the "Killer B's" you can come see me race a very modified one at Pike Peak next year if you like

AND... the WRC EVO AWD system is much more basic than the road car. is the only manufacturer in the WRC that is currently running 2006 rules that ban active-diffs. Hey Idea...maybe you can come back with a vintage Quattro next year since nothing that has been built since then, according to you, is any better!

I do absolutely give props to Audi for being innovators in World Rally, Touring Car and Trans AM/GTO but that was a long time ago racing against 2wd cars and the topic is not whether AWD is better than 2wd it's which AWD system is best and Audi is not even close these days with their nose heavy, high CG, overweight understeering pseudo sports sedans

all my opinion of course...and happy understeering

 

doing a super-sharp lift will just tuck the nose and it takes a strong trail brake and even a big flick to start to rotate it but as soon as you go to power it plows...

it would be basically impossible to spin...

 

Skyline a boat.......maybe, but correct me if I'm wrong.......during the Time Attack Challenge, didn't the Signal Skyline beat the Carbon Evo??

 

Don't get me wrong, Skylines can be quick but it's mainly due to the HP you can get out of it (kinda' Like a Supra). They handle well for their size but the key to real speed is to drop the weight down to reasonable levels where you can keep working tires and brakes under the car.

 

Hey guys a friend of mine that goes to UTI said that my evo is a "Wanna Be AWD".
I was like wtf are you smokin? but i dont really know anything bout cars or the evos drivetrain so can you give me some info or somthing to fire back at his face ?

-thanks GusandoX

ps this is most likely but i didnt want to start a new thread I just want a frew replys thanks

 

To sum up this thread...

1. Nissan: Attesa ETS
2. Honda: SH-AWD
3. Mitsubishi: AYC & ACD

I got a video of a evo and the r34 doing some laps around the gymkana track in japan, I can upload it and show you how well they both do.

 

Mitsu isn't dominating because the others have a better PLATFORM--a smaller vehicle. BTW, do you know who Chronohunter is? He's not some 16 year old kid who's only played GT3 banging away at a computer keyboard.

And the current Quattro system is FWD that goes to AWD. Not exactly the best set up for driving fast.

 

I think youre wrong about that one. I remember reading about the Tsukuba Time Attack last year where Tarzan Yamada drove 5 of the cars for the time attack. where after jumping out of the Signal R34 he went on to break the Tsukuba Time Attack record with the The SUN AUTO CYBER EVO @55.801 sec. while retaining its use as a registered street car in Japan.

 

^^^ Wasn't that beat by the Arta nsx? Which ran like 52 or 53

EDIT: Are we talking street? Than nevermind, arta nsx is a jgtc vehicle.

 

Yea! I just turned 4-0 and I'm well into GT4 by now

 

They were banned back in the 1980's after whooping everyone

 

AYC actually came out in the Evo IV in 1996. And S-AYC came out in 2003 with the Evo VIII.

Attesa ET-S and ET-S Pro are awesome. On the AWD R32 skylines (GTS-4 and GT-R) there's a fuse you can pull to make the car RWD. Don't know if it can be done as easily on the R33 and 34 but most people just hook up a swith for it. It's like having your cake, and eating it too. The traction and cornering grip of an AWD, along with the ability to do burnouts etc. Also, GT-R's are able to get pretty damn sideways as it takes a second or two for the torque transfer to go to the front wheels.

Considering it came out in 1989, that's pretty cool!

I've also read good things about Porsche's AWD systems.