STI's arrived in the US
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I dont know....having an intercooler on the top of the engine....imagine you were sitting in traffic on a summer day and its like 97C outside...you're intercooler is gonna suffer from heat soak...all that heat will go up and straight through that intercooler
I prefer a front mount intercooler....
I also prefer the evo over the subie
I prefer a front mount intercooler....
I also prefer the evo over the subie
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Little from column A, little from column B. Know exactly where the intercooler is, and yes, I think it's a very inefficient design. I know why it's a TMIC in the USDM, but, why like that in Japan? It'd seem that there really is no benefit to having it on top.
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Where's the FMIC on the EVO sitting, oh that's right, inches away from the A/C condenser and radiator. Both a FMIC and TMIC can heat soak without a good airflow. The TMIC on the STI is actually over the tranny, and has some space behind it. So at speed it does get good airflow. It's not quite as effective as a FMIC at speed, but it does the job fine. Especially when you consider the STI is 2.5l and won't need to run as much boost as the EVO to make good power.
I think there's a couple reasons for Subaru sticking with a TMIC. For 1, like I said it does the job fine, why fix something that isn't broke. For 2, less lag. Finally it's tradition, the Impreza originally started out with rally in mind and a TMIC is protected from debris and won't have a problem in deep snow with the front grille getting blocked.
I think there's a couple reasons for Subaru sticking with a TMIC. For 1, like I said it does the job fine, why fix something that isn't broke. For 2, less lag. Finally it's tradition, the Impreza originally started out with rally in mind and a TMIC is protected from debris and won't have a problem in deep snow with the front grille getting blocked.
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Originally posted by Ben
Where's the FMIC on the EVO sitting, oh that's right, inches away from the A/C condenser and radiator. Both a FMIC and TMIC can heat soak without a good airflow. The TMIC on the STI is actually over the tranny, and has some space behind it. So at speed it does get good airflow. It's not quite as effective as a FMIC at speed, but it does the job fine. Especially when you consider the STI is 2.5l and won't need to run as much boost as the EVO to make good power.
I think there's a couple reasons for Subaru sticking with a TMIC. For 1, like I said it does the job fine, why fix something that isn't broke. For 2, less lag. Finally it's tradition, the Impreza originally started out with rally in mind and a TMIC is protected from debris and won't have a problem in deep snow with the front grille getting blocked.
Where's the FMIC on the EVO sitting, oh that's right, inches away from the A/C condenser and radiator. Both a FMIC and TMIC can heat soak without a good airflow. The TMIC on the STI is actually over the tranny, and has some space behind it. So at speed it does get good airflow. It's not quite as effective as a FMIC at speed, but it does the job fine. Especially when you consider the STI is 2.5l and won't need to run as much boost as the EVO to make good power.
I think there's a couple reasons for Subaru sticking with a TMIC. For 1, like I said it does the job fine, why fix something that isn't broke. For 2, less lag. Finally it's tradition, the Impreza originally started out with rally in mind and a TMIC is protected from debris and won't have a problem in deep snow with the front grille getting blocked.
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Originally posted by TwiNpnOy84
imagine you were sitting in traffic on a summer day and its like 97C outside...you're intercooler is gonna suffer from heat soak...all that heat will go up and straight through that intercooler
imagine you were sitting in traffic on a summer day and its like 97C outside...you're intercooler is gonna suffer from heat soak...all that heat will go up and straight through that intercooler
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Originally posted by ratboy128
i think the subaru wrc cars actually have a front mounted intercooler, and also a lot of people with wrx's have done front mount intercooler conversions so that kinda says something.
i think the subaru wrc cars actually have a front mounted intercooler, and also a lot of people with wrx's have done front mount intercooler conversions so that kinda says something.
