STI's arrived in the US
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Originally posted by ratboy128
i think the subaru wrc cars actually have a front mounted intercooler, and also a lot of people with wrx's have done front mount intercooler conversions so that kinda says something.
i think the subaru wrc cars actually have a front mounted intercooler, and also a lot of people with wrx's have done front mount intercooler conversions so that kinda says something.
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Originally posted by TwiNpnOy84
I dont think I want to work on a boxer engine
I dont think I want to work on a boxer engine
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Some things are easier on a Subaru boxer. Don't even have to jack the car up for an oil change. All the accesories and belts are easy to get to. Actually pulling the engine is pretty easy too.
The uppipe is a major PITA. Fuel rails can be tricky. Spark plugs defidently aren't as easy as an inline engine, but they aren't to bad with the right tools.
The uppipe is a major PITA. Fuel rails can be tricky. Spark plugs defidently aren't as easy as an inline engine, but they aren't to bad with the right tools.
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i think the intercooler is in on top because when rallying... you know you might hit something and if you do.. no worry about a hose popping off the intercooler in front and losing all drivability. however the top mounted intercooler can not get as much air as the fron mounted intercooler. rember that when the fan is on it is pulling air away from both the radiater and the intercooler just my 2c
but rock on with an intercooler.. makes a world of difference when you start pushing some serious boost
but rock on with an intercooler.. makes a world of difference when you start pushing some serious boost
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Originally posted by Ben
Where's the FMIC on the EVO sitting, oh that's right, inches away from the A/C condenser and radiator. Both a FMIC and TMIC can heat soak without a good airflow. The TMIC on the STI is actually over the tranny, and has some space behind it. So at speed it does get good airflow. It's not quite as effective as a FMIC at speed, but it does the job fine. Especially when you consider the STI is 2.5l and won't need to run as much boost as the EVO to make good power.
I think there's a couple reasons for Subaru sticking with a TMIC. For 1, like I said it does the job fine, why fix something that isn't broke. For 2, less lag. Finally it's tradition, the Impreza originally started out with rally in mind and a TMIC is protected from debris and won't have a problem in deep snow with the front grille getting blocked.
Where's the FMIC on the EVO sitting, oh that's right, inches away from the A/C condenser and radiator. Both a FMIC and TMIC can heat soak without a good airflow. The TMIC on the STI is actually over the tranny, and has some space behind it. So at speed it does get good airflow. It's not quite as effective as a FMIC at speed, but it does the job fine. Especially when you consider the STI is 2.5l and won't need to run as much boost as the EVO to make good power.
I think there's a couple reasons for Subaru sticking with a TMIC. For 1, like I said it does the job fine, why fix something that isn't broke. For 2, less lag. Finally it's tradition, the Impreza originally started out with rally in mind and a TMIC is protected from debris and won't have a problem in deep snow with the front grille getting blocked.
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If you read the whole thread... we all know that
The WRC's FMIC is mounted inside the top part of the bumper, and the radiator is mounted in the bottom part, so they don't really touch each other, just like the TMIC don't touch the radiator. And the scoop does function, please do some research before you speak.
The WRC's FMIC is mounted inside the top part of the bumper, and the radiator is mounted in the bottom part, so they don't really touch each other, just like the TMIC don't touch the radiator. And the scoop does function, please do some research before you speak.
Last edited by BoxerSTi; Mar 28, 2003 at 10:31 PM.
Originally posted by trigeek37
neither are exactly good looking cars...
I prefer the Evo over the STi, but that's just me.... Neither are going to win any awards because of their beauty, they are purposefully designed with little regard for looks.
neither are exactly good looking cars...
I prefer the Evo over the STi, but that's just me.... Neither are going to win any awards because of their beauty, they are purposefully designed with little regard for looks.
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Hot air rises.
A radiator next to an intercooler should not be compared to an intercooler on top of an engine.
PS I liked the look of the Subaru at first but now I think the Evo is much more attractive.(Maybe because I shelled out $32000)
A radiator next to an intercooler should not be compared to an intercooler on top of an engine.
PS I liked the look of the Subaru at first but now I think the Evo is much more attractive.(Maybe because I shelled out $32000)
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skibum - yes hot air rises, however heat radiates, meaning all directions.
EVO Envy.......you should get your facts straight and learn how to read an entire thread before you spout off on one thing that has been said. I already explained the WRC intercooler thing. They started out with a TMIC, that's why I said tradition and that's how it used to be. I had said IIRC the bugeye body style was the first year for the FMIC, but now that I think about it, they went to a FMIC in 97 when they switched to the 2 door.
What's this, oh, a WRC Impreza with a TMIC.
EVO Envy.......you should get your facts straight and learn how to read an entire thread before you spout off on one thing that has been said. I already explained the WRC intercooler thing. They started out with a TMIC, that's why I said tradition and that's how it used to be. I had said IIRC the bugeye body style was the first year for the FMIC, but now that I think about it, they went to a FMIC in 97 when they switched to the 2 door.
What's this, oh, a WRC Impreza with a TMIC.
