The new benchmark in sport sedans: The new M5.
Originally Posted by NoTec
Actually, i would sit there in my M5 thinkin "what the hell is that little ricebox doing" They are truly awesome cars.
Originally Posted by loj68
SMG bites........it's still a glorified slushbox. Audi DSG and the auto-manuals in Lambo's and Ferrari's are the only tolerable alternatives to a good old stick.
If it was a slushbox, it wouldn't be a "bucking bronco".
evo's are cracked out ****** who give great sex.
m5's are high class beautiful women who give good sex.
Deciding what you want is the tough part. Would you take a crack ***** to the movies? I would choose the hot chick who gives ok sex
m5's are high class beautiful women who give good sex.
Deciding what you want is the tough part. Would you take a crack ***** to the movies? I would choose the hot chick who gives ok sex
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It seems like a 4000 pound video game too me. Really, the only thing that appeals too me about the car is the engine. The rest of it leaves me stone cold. For that kind of money, it wouldn't even make my list.
Jim
Jim
I bet it would take me under an hour to hammer that POS smartly into a telephone pole at rediculous velocity.
85k for a car I couldn't wrench on or race make no sense.
Now spending 85k to mod my busted a$$ 03' evo makes total sense
85k for a car I couldn't wrench on or race make no sense.
Now spending 85k to mod my busted a$$ 03' evo makes total sense
Originally Posted by bdking57
this car is very fast around the road course... The fq400 wasnt that much faster, and this thing is a tank! but seriously for the price you could have a raced out evo and a comfortable daily driver like the new lexus is350.hmmm... the m6 is even better anyway!
Thats why they market them to people that will drop $85k on a car like it was nothing. I would drive one, and have a MR to have fun with 
You can't beat a 500hp luxury car..unless its ferrari
You can't beat a 500hp luxury car..unless its ferrari
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From: NC
Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
BMW's SMG isn't a slushbox, it's the same basic system as the F cars.
If it was a slushbox, it wouldn't be a "bucking bronco".
If it was a slushbox, it wouldn't be a "bucking bronco".
Ferrari's have electronically controlled manual transmissions.......SMG doesn't have a clutch or anything like a manual tranny. In place of the torque converter they've got some hydraulic system that changes the gears. It's certainly better than a traditional manu-matic slushbox but still not as good as a traditional manual or DSG. I test drove a new BMW about 3 weeks ago with SMG.....it's close but no cigar.
Originally Posted by loj68
Ferrari's have electronically controlled manual transmissions.......SMG doesn't have a clutch or anything like a manual tranny. In place of the torque converter they've got some hydraulic system that changes the gears. It's certainly better than a traditional manu-matic slushbox but still not as good as a traditional manual or DSG. I test drove a new BMW about 3 weeks ago with SMG.....it's close but no cigar.
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Originally Posted by Mikey52
The SMG system does have a clutch, it's just computer controlled.
I found this article about SMG on the BMWworld website that says there's no clutch. If it's wrong then my apologies.
The new SMG II gearbox has these features and benefits:
* You can choose between two shift modes, the sequential ("S") mode or the automated ("A") mode.
* "Drivelogic" allows you to individually match the SMG's shift characteristic to your preferred driving habits, with eleven different driving programs.
* When downshifting, the engine will automatically double-declutch.
* There is no need for a clutch, clutch pedal or torque converter.
* It is easy to select the optimum shift point with the "shift lights", LEDs in the cockpit indicating the optimum shift point on the tachometer.
* You can choose between two shift modes, the sequential ("S") mode or the automated ("A") mode.
* "Drivelogic" allows you to individually match the SMG's shift characteristic to your preferred driving habits, with eleven different driving programs.
* When downshifting, the engine will automatically double-declutch.
* There is no need for a clutch, clutch pedal or torque converter.
* It is easy to select the optimum shift point with the "shift lights", LEDs in the cockpit indicating the optimum shift point on the tachometer.
Originally Posted by NoTec
Actually, i would sit there in my M5 thinkin "what the hell is that little ricebox doing" They are truly awesome cars.