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Originally Posted by gatorade
Wow thanks for the replys.
Talon thanks for the info as well hotshot. Thing is im settled on a 2G black on black(i hate tan) but ethier way I will be swapping out the seats for some nice sparco's, cobras etc.
Ok yes, I found out that Evolution parts will not work, so I got that cleared up.
As for the modifications...I want to have a strong pulling 2G and i've heard that could be done with minor modifications just like you explained, talon. I was thinking of something like this http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...ct=46354&cat=4
Anyways, talon, what kind of mods are you running? I've been in the evo world a little too long and have forgotten what type of mods will get me to where I want and as of right now im looking at the FAQ at what type of mods to do first. But I just wanted to get a first hand answer on what YOU did first.
Thanks man, and to tell you the truth your car is exactly what im shooting and aiming for. Sleek black and black rims. Sweet and sexy car, good job with it.
Talon thanks for the info as well hotshot. Thing is im settled on a 2G black on black(i hate tan) but ethier way I will be swapping out the seats for some nice sparco's, cobras etc.
Ok yes, I found out that Evolution parts will not work, so I got that cleared up.
As for the modifications...I want to have a strong pulling 2G and i've heard that could be done with minor modifications just like you explained, talon. I was thinking of something like this http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...ct=46354&cat=4
Anyways, talon, what kind of mods are you running? I've been in the evo world a little too long and have forgotten what type of mods will get me to where I want and as of right now im looking at the FAQ at what type of mods to do first. But I just wanted to get a first hand answer on what YOU did first.
Thanks man, and to tell you the truth your car is exactly what im shooting and aiming for. Sleek black and black rims. Sweet and sexy car, good job with it.
) will all hard piping, and that's it. It's got fuel mods (pump, injectors, SAFCII) as well as coilovers, upgraded Brembo slotted rotors, and a lot of gauges.That's the Clifs Notes, anyway.
Originally Posted by gatorade
Hey but thats the fun of it
So I just threw something together off of machV's site
Mach V Strut Tower Brace
Tokico Shock/Spring Package: Spring/Shock Package: Illumina adjustable
NGK Spark Plug Wires
Walbro 255 lph High Flow Fuel Pump
Fidanza Cam Gears: Fidanza Cam Gear Clear
Polyurethane motor mounts
Flex-A-Lite Slimline Fan Cluster
Main Bearing Cap Alignment Dowel (MBCAD) Kit
Greddy Oil Catch Can
Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator
Turbo DSMs ACT clutch: 2600lb w/Full Face Plate
Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Exhaust
Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Downpipe: Mandrel-Bent Stainless Steel
Mach V Polished O2 Housing (internal)
Ported 1995+ Exhaust Manifold: Ported 2G Manifold - Stage 2
Turbo Wrap Kit
Exhaust Wrap Kit
Hallman Pro Boost Controller
Blitz SUS Power Air Filter
16G turbo upgrade ported and clipped
HKS External Wastegate: Buschur Racing Ported 2G Exhaust Manifold with External Wastegate Flange
Blitz Super Sound Compressor Bypass Valve (1995-1999 turbo)
ECU+ Tuning and Data Logging Package: ECU+ 2G DSM Plug-and-Play Package
Baer Racing Track Brake Upgrade
Opinons are welcome since im "kinda" new to the DSM world.
Im going to with something along the lines of that..maybe change up the ecu...to an aem EMS. I <3 the dark black on both of your cars, thats exactly what im looking for.
So I just threw something together off of machV's site
Mach V Strut Tower Brace
Tokico Shock/Spring Package: Spring/Shock Package: Illumina adjustable
NGK Spark Plug Wires
Walbro 255 lph High Flow Fuel Pump
Fidanza Cam Gears: Fidanza Cam Gear Clear
Polyurethane motor mounts
Flex-A-Lite Slimline Fan Cluster
Main Bearing Cap Alignment Dowel (MBCAD) Kit
Greddy Oil Catch Can
Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator
Turbo DSMs ACT clutch: 2600lb w/Full Face Plate
Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Exhaust
Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Downpipe: Mandrel-Bent Stainless Steel
Mach V Polished O2 Housing (internal)
Ported 1995+ Exhaust Manifold: Ported 2G Manifold - Stage 2
Turbo Wrap Kit
Exhaust Wrap Kit
Hallman Pro Boost Controller
Blitz SUS Power Air Filter
16G turbo upgrade ported and clipped
HKS External Wastegate: Buschur Racing Ported 2G Exhaust Manifold with External Wastegate Flange
Blitz Super Sound Compressor Bypass Valve (1995-1999 turbo)
ECU+ Tuning and Data Logging Package: ECU+ 2G DSM Plug-and-Play Package
Baer Racing Track Brake Upgrade
Opinons are welcome since im "kinda" new to the DSM world.
Im going to with something along the lines of that..maybe change up the ecu...to an aem EMS. I <3 the dark black on both of your cars, thats exactly what im looking for.
my first car was a 95 eclipse GST of which i still have pictures of in my garage. The car had a stock 7 bolt block, FP green turbo, and close to 400whp. I loved that car, but the front wheel drive was what killed me. If that car was AWD, i probably would have never bought my evo.
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Originally Posted by Talon
You know that link you posted is a FWD, right?
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Originally Posted by Talon
My car's got a lot done to it, but power wise I am running a small 16 @ 18 lbs. Full intake with turbo-back exhaust with hf cat, way too big FM (but I like it! ) will all hard piping, and that's it. It's got fuel mods (pump, injectors, SAFCII) as well as coilovers, upgraded Brembo slotted rotors, and a lot of gauges.
That's the Clifs Notes, anyway.
) will all hard piping, and that's it. It's got fuel mods (pump, injectors, SAFCII) as well as coilovers, upgraded Brembo slotted rotors, and a lot of gauges.That's the Clifs Notes, anyway.
So basically
intake - exhaust - IC - hard piping - fuel - tune.
Sounds good.
Thanks, I feel like a learn something new everyday here
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turbo xs mbc
hks ssqv bov
accel thundersport wires
ngk bpr7es plugs
blitz full auto turbo timer
injen intake, k & n filter
phantom autometer boost, air/fuel, and water temp gauges
ported evo 3 16g turbo
ported evo 3 manifold
ported evo 3 o2 housing
lower i/c j pipes
3 inch custom turbo back exhaust,
hks muffler
installed s-afc.
550cc injectors
Aeromotive FPR
SBR SS FMIC J-Pipe
How is this looking? Just 2 questions....is a fuel rail neccessary? And what types of models did the AWD come in? Thanks man.
hks ssqv bov
accel thundersport wires
ngk bpr7es plugs
blitz full auto turbo timer
injen intake, k & n filter
phantom autometer boost, air/fuel, and water temp gauges
ported evo 3 16g turbo
ported evo 3 manifold
ported evo 3 o2 housing
lower i/c j pipes
3 inch custom turbo back exhaust,
hks muffler
installed s-afc.
550cc injectors
Aeromotive FPR
SBR SS FMIC J-Pipe
How is this looking? Just 2 questions....is a fuel rail neccessary? And what types of models did the AWD come in? Thanks man.
Last edited by gatorade; Jun 4, 2006 at 03:48 PM.
Originally Posted by gatorade
So basically
intake - exhaust - IC - hard piping - fuel - tune.
Sounds good.
Thanks, I feel like a learn something new everyday here
intake - exhaust - IC - hard piping - fuel - tune.
Sounds good.
Thanks, I feel like a learn something new everyday here
Originally Posted by gatorade
turbo xs mbc
hks ssqv bov
accel thundersport wires
ngk bpr7es plugs
blitz full auto turbo timer
injen intake, k & n filter
phantom autometer boost, air/fuel, and water temp gauges
ported evo 3 16g turbo
ported evo 3 manifold
ported evo 3 o2 housing
lower i/c j pipes
3 inch custom turbo back exhaust,
hks muffler
installed s-afc.
550cc injectors
How is this looking? Just 2 questions....is a fuel rail neccessary? And what types of models did the AWD come in? Thanks man.
hks ssqv bov
accel thundersport wires
ngk bpr7es plugs
blitz full auto turbo timer
injen intake, k & n filter
phantom autometer boost, air/fuel, and water temp gauges
ported evo 3 16g turbo
ported evo 3 manifold
ported evo 3 o2 housing
lower i/c j pipes
3 inch custom turbo back exhaust,
hks muffler
installed s-afc.
550cc injectors
How is this looking? Just 2 questions....is a fuel rail neccessary? And what types of models did the AWD come in? Thanks man.
AWD Cars are badged as follows:
Eclipse GSX
Talon TSi AWD
Laser RS
Now it gets confusing because I believe ALL of the Lasers are called the RS, so you'll have to look for AWD specifically. Also, FWD Talons are called simply the TSi. So, just because it's a TSi doesn't mean it's AWD. It's got to say AWD. Eclipses, on the other hand, are very straight forward.
Also, the Autometer A/F gauges are a waste. Don't bother. If I had to pick three to do with, I'd go boost, EGT, and Oil pressure. If you're planning on road racing or something, maybe a water and or oil temp. Since I HPDE my car, I've got Boost, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Oil Pressure, and EGT. When I was lapping, I only looked at Oil/ Water temps, and OIl pressure. All three, very important.
The EGT is a great tuning tool, and makes sure you're not running too hot and too lean in many repsects. The stock boost gauge DSMs come with is worthless. I've got a boost gauge in my Talon because the stock one is unaccurate.
The EGT is a great tuning tool, and makes sure you're not running too hot and too lean in many repsects. The stock boost gauge DSMs come with is worthless. I've got a boost gauge in my Talon because the stock one is unaccurate.
Originally Posted by gatorade
turbo xs mbc
hks ssqv bov
accel thundersport wires
ngk bpr7es plugs
blitz full auto turbo timer
injen intake, k & n filter
phantom autometer boost, air/fuel, and water temp gauges
ported evo 3 16g turbo
ported evo 3 manifold
ported evo 3 o2 housing
lower i/c j pipes
3 inch custom turbo back exhaust,
hks muffler
installed s-afc.
550cc injectors
Aeromotive FPR
SBR SS FMIC J-Pipe
How is this looking? Just 2 questions....is a fuel rail neccessary? And what types of models did the AWD come in? Thanks man.
hks ssqv bov
accel thundersport wires
ngk bpr7es plugs
blitz full auto turbo timer
injen intake, k & n filter
phantom autometer boost, air/fuel, and water temp gauges
ported evo 3 16g turbo
ported evo 3 manifold
ported evo 3 o2 housing
lower i/c j pipes
3 inch custom turbo back exhaust,
hks muffler
installed s-afc.
550cc injectors
Aeromotive FPR
SBR SS FMIC J-Pipe
How is this looking? Just 2 questions....is a fuel rail neccessary? And what types of models did the AWD come in? Thanks man.
Check out DSMtalk.com Another forum, and better than Tuners IMO, about DSM's.
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Ok so i've put together somewhat of a more better set-up
Turbo: EVO III 16G with Ported turbine housing, 2G turbo install kit, and upgraded wastegate flapper.
Intake/Cooling:K&N Filter with RRE turbo inlet pipe, RRE upper I/C pipe, RRE fmic bend, GReddy Type S bov, GReddy FMIC, Fluidyne Radiator
Drivetrain: ACT 2100 clutch
Fuel/Fuel Management: Denso 660's, Aeromotive FPR, Apexi S-AFC-2
Electronics: APEX'i Turbo Timer, 52mm GReddy EGT and Boost Gauge
Exhaust: Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Exhaust, Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Downpipe, Evo III Exhaust Manifold Ported (7cm turbine housing)
Turbo: EVO III 16G with Ported turbine housing, 2G turbo install kit, and upgraded wastegate flapper.
Intake/Cooling:K&N Filter with RRE turbo inlet pipe, RRE upper I/C pipe, RRE fmic bend, GReddy Type S bov, GReddy FMIC, Fluidyne Radiator
Drivetrain: ACT 2100 clutch
Fuel/Fuel Management: Denso 660's, Aeromotive FPR, Apexi S-AFC-2
Electronics: APEX'i Turbo Timer, 52mm GReddy EGT and Boost Gauge
Exhaust: Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Exhaust, Buschur Racing 2.5-inch Downpipe, Evo III Exhaust Manifold Ported (7cm turbine housing)
You don't need an external wastegate with a 16G turbo. That'd be way overkill. The slimline fan is also not needed, unless you get a larger turbo. The Fluidyne is nice, but again, not needed unless maybe you're planning to road race the car.
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Mach V
--Dan
Mach V