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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Edmunds: G37 vs 335i

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...icleId=121462/

The G37 ran 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. That's only 0.1-0.2 faster than a G35.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by E. Haskell
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...icleId=121462/

The G37 ran 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. That's only 0.1-0.2 faster than a G35.
From what I've read the G37 is kind of tricky to launch, but make no mistake about it is certainly faster than the G35. After 60mph the G37 coupe starts to pull harder thand the G35 coupe from what I've seen from test numbers. Despite the extra weight, which is a down side the G37 coupe does seem to be a quicker car than the G35 coupe. Also 281whp is pretty impressive, most stock G35 Coupes were in the 240whp range if lucky. With all that said, the car still is slower than the 335i. But also in my opinion it is a more attractive car and maxed out with options cost about the same as the starting cost for the 335i Coupe. It's interesting, edmunds picked the 335i, while Motor Trend picked the G37 Coupe over the 335i. Not knocking any of the cars, I think they are both great, although I do wish the G37 didn't gain so much weight. I wonder how much the 2008 350Z will weigh in at?

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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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From what I've read the G37 is kind of tricky to launch, but make no mistake about it is certainly faster than the G35. After 60mph the G37 coupe starts to pull harder thand the G35 coupe from what I've seen from test numbers. Despite the extra weight, which is a down side the G37 coupe does seem to be a quicker car than the G35 coupe. Also 281whp is pretty impressive, most stock G35 Coupes were in the 240whp range if lucky. With all that said, the car still is slower than the 335i. But also in my opinion it is a more attractive car and maxed out with options cost about the same as the starting cost for the 335i Coupe. It's interesting, edmunds picked the 335i, while Motor Trend picked the G37 Coupe over the 335i. Not knocking any of the cars, I think they are both great, although I do wish the G37 didn't gain so much weight. I wonder how much the 2008 350Z will weigh in at?

^^^Can I say something ? The solely and main reason why the G37 was put in number 1 place in one of the comparisson is because when they tested the 335i it lacked of oil cooler consequently the engine went to limp mode.
By the way, this is nothing new to you because you know this car as good as me ( I have seen you at E90POST frequently)

BMW protected the BMW 335i engine by adding a fail safe feature called LIMP mode which shuts down the engine management and puts is equivalent to a vallet mode.

I am absolutely neutral here, I have always been neutral. I personally love the G37 and wouldn't mind having one. The G37 did not overheat or did not went to LIMP mode while the BMW did. Obviously this play such a negative weight factor that at the end the BMW earned a second place.

Just a clarification to anyone on this forum, this issue has been 100% solved in the 07 model, specifically from March 07 an on.

BMW had a flaw by not fitting the first BMW 335i cars with an oil cooler unless you purchased the sport package which comes with a oil cooler stock.

In the last 2 weeks I have been driving my car hardcore sometimes while in temps outside of 113 and never had any issues, needless to say that my car has an oil cooler.

It is a matter of a fact that I actually ran my car at SIR 16 -18 times doing hot lapping and never passed the 240-250 degrees (half of the gauge). Unmistakingly it seems like this issue has been solved (the fuel pump issue remains a big challenge on this car though).

What is my veredict?, the BMW performance wise hands down is the winner. The G37 is perhaps the best value for price.

My fair .2c

Carlos

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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How would BMW forget to include something as vital as an oil cooler?

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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How would BMW forget to include something as vital as an oil cooler?
The oil cooler is an item that comes with the sport package...if you don't get the sport package, then you get no oil cooler.

As to why it doesn't come standard with all 335i's, I have no clue.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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Yeah I agree, especially on a Turbo Car, doubley especially on a Twin Turbo car. Me thinks the only reason is to get a low entry price, which it has. I guess that widget adds a significant cost gain.

Also, WTF is this I am hearing that the new 3-series don't have oil Dip Sticks?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 3000ways
From what I've read the G37 is kind of tricky to launch, but make no mistake about it is certainly faster than the G35. After 60mph the G37 coupe starts to pull harder thand the G35 coupe from what I've seen from test numbers. Despite the extra weight, which is a down side the G37 coupe does seem to be a quicker car than the G35 coupe. Also 281whp is pretty impressive, most stock G35 Coupes were in the 240whp range if lucky. With all that said, the car still is slower than the 335i. But also in my opinion it is a more attractive car and maxed out with options cost about the same as the starting cost for the 335i Coupe. It's interesting, edmunds picked the 335i, while Motor Trend picked the G37 Coupe over the 335i. Not knocking any of the cars, I think they are both great, although I do wish the G37 didn't gain so much weight. I wonder how much the 2008 350Z will weigh in at?
Yet CAR and Driver and also Road & Track picked the 335i. Thats 335i - 3 and G37 - 1. G37 is an inferior machine. It lacks the prestige and the driving experience. Its still an OK car though. The 335 is a great car though.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Also, WTF is this I am hearing that the new 3-series don't have oil Dip Sticks?
Yup, they don't have dip sticks. Apparently the car monitors oil levels and tells you if you're low or high on oil. It's convenient to have but IMO a dip stick would have been nice.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Yet CAR and Driver and also Road & Track picked the 335i. Thats 335i - 3 and G37 - 1. G37 is an inferior machine. It lacks the prestige and the driving experience. Its still an OK car though. The 335 is a great car though.
Lacks prestige....wft. I buy what I want; not based on prestige.

All the car mags pick the 3-series time and time again. I'm not sure why they even do comparo's, it' usually a moot point! I read the 335i had a few issues in different comparison tests when it first came out; and a lotta mags still picked it! wft!

Isn't the G37 like 8k cheaper?
fwiw, I was close to picking up an 03/04 G35 - but didn't like them. They seemed pretty slow and disconnected from the road, which most luxury type models seem to do unfortunately. The trade-off is usually the nicities, but I didn't think those G35 models were anything special inside. Outside they've always had a basic sexy look imo.

Oh, and the 350z will probably gain more weight!
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
Yeah I agree, especially on a Turbo Car, doubley especially on a Twin Turbo car. Me thinks the only reason is to get a low entry price, which it has. I guess that widget adds a significant cost gain.

Also, WTF is this I am hearing that the new 3-series don't have oil Dip Sticks?

All the fluid levels are displayed in the main LCD display which displays warning commands and visual signs of whatever fluid specific.

Fluids are 10% covered under a 4 year full warranty. The oil level specifically actually appears in the display with a full bar graphic and letters(Empty and full)

Carlos
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Roldy
The oil cooler is an item that comes with the sport package...if you don't get the sport package, then you get no oil cooler.

As to why it doesn't come standard with all 335i's, I have no clue.
It is being retrofit as per customer request. Originally only offered as a part of the Sport package but it seems to be a realiability issue so they are srating to offer a free of charge conversions.

Carlos
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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I heard the fuel pump issues have been now dealt with on the the new cars (like march on) ...am I wrong on this ??
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
All the fluid levels are displayed in the main LCD display which displays warning commands and visual signs of whatever fluid specific.

Fluids are 10% covered under a 4 year full warranty. The oil level specifically actually appears in the display with a full bar graphic and letters(Empty and full)

Carlos
That's nice and all but I prefer a mechanical measurement Vs. an electronic gizmo especially as time progresses and maybe that sensor takes a dump. A did stick from 100 years ago still works.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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The 335i is certainly an amazing car... but the G37 is like 95% of the car for ~80% of the price. For people on a budget, they'll jump to the G37. The lack of an oil cooler on ALL of the 335i's was an oversite for sure. I guess they figured that those who opted for the automatic tranny and non-sport package would drive slow
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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I heard the fuel pump issues have been now dealt with on the the new cars (like march on) ...am I wrong on this ??
That's right!! just as the 4G63 had crankwalk on the 2 DSM and the SUBARU WRX 02-04 had a weak transmission the BMW put its trademark on this new BMW 335i in the name of fuel pump failure.

As you well said, it has been perhaps completely corrected with a new batch of fuel pumps. Th failure rate was very high on the first generation fuel pumps issues from Sep06 to March07. People had enough of this crap and made complaints all over the world and BMW quickly fixed this issue.

Issue number two was the oil cooler which they are being retrofitted based on one by one case.

Carlos
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