Originally Posted by BlueByYouuu

I like the car, but I kinda think the lights... are a little bubbly, and cute looking... like the cat in Shrek when he does that kitty face. It may be mean, but doesnt really look it. The headlights need to shrink and so does the price. 300hp Turbo BMW? $30k? Think again... just because it's a smaller car doesnt mean it will be that much cheaper. I say almost $40,000 after normal options like sport package etc.

Originally Posted by Vigo

[/B]That's how much the 335i cost. What makes you think that a smaller car will cost the same?

Originally Posted by Vigo

[/b]That's how much the 335i cost. What makes you think that a smaller car will cost the same?

Originally Posted by 3000ways

I wouldn't put all my chips just on this one car. There are plenty of interesting offerings coming up in the not so distant future. The 2007 automotive model year was rather dull and uneventful. Most major automotive manufactuers have selected 2008 and 2009 model years as the time to release updated and much improved vehicles. I know the 335i is a very nice car, but it just is the newest kid on the block and didn't have much in the model year of 2007 to still away its thunder. So I can see how people are looking at the 335i and then seeing the 135i and immediately assuming this car will be the must have for the next couple years. I differ much on this thinking. Here are just some examples of cars that I believe will be coming out in 2008 and 2009 model years that may interest you-

Of course the 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X, I know, some don't like the styling, but when you see it in person I think it will change your opinion. Honestly when I see the new Lancer GTS on the roads it just amazes me how much more attractive this car is compared to the previous generation Lancers. Honestly, I know its (2008 Lancer GTS) missing the front mount intercooler, the wide and aggressive stance, and other little features of the EVO IX, but it is just as attractive in my opinion as the the EVO IX, but not as aggressive. Now I could only imagine how the EVO X would look in person side by side the EVO IX. I also believe the EVO X will easily outperform the BMW 335i and the 135i by a long shot. I know it can't match the BMWs fit and finish but I believe the interior will be a great improvement over the VIII and the IX. There are other little improvements I see the X having over the IX that many of us take for granted, such as better gearing, better areodynamics, greater high speed pulling power, more durable clutch or clutches LOL, and better low end power. Then there are the most important things such as better handling and more power (perhaps more weight, but not as great as I think others believe) and a better all around performance car. I just wouldn't ignore the possibility that the EVO X may be an even more perfect car for you then the 135i.

Then there is the 2009 370Z. Should have atleast 330HP, and is suppose to be lighter than the outgoing 350Z. So with more power and less weight the 370Z should be an awesome car. Only two seats though .

Also the hatchcrap 2008 STI will be available, and moving on...

I know most of us are only interested in import cars, but we cannot forget the interesting offerings from the American companies, such as the new Camaro SS and Challanger SRT-8, both will have at least 400HP and should cost somehwere between $35,000 to $40,000 or about the realistic price tag of a 135i.

Also word is that 2009 a new S2000 will be available, rumors are 250hp and 180tq (I hope that is just a rumor and makes more power than that)

Look out for Mazda as it begins to release more and new info on the new 2009 or 2010 RX-8 which rumors have it making atleast 300hp.

This is just the tip of the ice berg, I believe as we get closer to the year 2008 and the year 2009, there will be even more interesting offerings available. The 335i and 135i look awesome right now, but competition is about to get very fierce and BMW do not think Mercedes and Audi won't counter your 1 series (135i) in the USA move, they most likely will. Can somebody say Audi RS3 .

Originally Posted by silvrevo

As far as the 135i,,,, I have already owned a fast econobox for the past 4 yrs.

The 335i is going to fit me just fine ,,,,,,,,, mind the frickin hp fuel pump shiet.

Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO

EVO X: There isnt a single thing I like about it other than the AYC. Its heavy, underpowered and ugly. It also looks WAY too much like a regular lancer as well.

Originally Posted by 3000ways

How can you say the EVO X is heavy and underpowered when they haven't even released specs for it Seriously I highly doubt it will weigh anymore than what a 135i will.

Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO

There is no way the 135i will be 3500lbs. Hell, the 335i is 3593lbs. The EVO X is going to be 3500lbs+ as confirmed by multiple sources.

As for power, I think its pretty much common knowledge the EVO X will be around 300-315hp. Granted its not overrated like the IX, adding 30 or so horsepower and adding 250lbs wont do much for the acceleration. Not to mention the engine in transverse so it will be a nightmare to work on. I just want nothing to do with the EVO X, I think its a disgrace from every other EVO built from the I to the IX.

Originally Posted by 3000ways

As confirmed by multiple sources So all these sources have actually gotten their hands on a EVO X and weighed one Do not speak of speculation as if it confirmation.I myself am speculating and that is exactly why I said I wouldn't be surprised to see the EVO X and 135i, but can I confirm this, absolutely not, and you cannot confirm it weighing in at 3500Lbs either.

Also nobody is saying you have to buy a EVO X, there are many very nice car choices just around the corner and all I said is I wouldn't put all my chips on the 135i being the must have vehicle 2 or 3 years from now when the competition gets a lot more fierce.

Also I admit that Mitsubishi fit and finish will never be that of a BMW, but do not expect to have the same quality as a $40,000+ 335i on a cheaper 135i. Whether it is a BMW, Audi, or Mercedes, a $35,000 car is still a $35,000 car.

Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO

Uhh ya, Mitsubishi basically confirmed the weight would be up there. Maybe thats why every single article possible has confirmed this...

Im not putting all my chips in on the 135i, I said basically from the numbers its showing, the styling, and projected price, its my sort of car.

Im not expecting a 335i in the 135i, however, look what we got in the EVO for $34k... certainly not the interior you get in other 35,000 cars.

Originally Posted by 3000ways

Here is my guess on the specs of the 135i.

280hp/280tq (maybe even 260-270hp)
3300-3350lbs

Why do I say it will make less horsepower than a 335i because it just would not make sense to rate the 135i and 335i at the same power and plus the have the 135i be a lot lighter and cheaper. It would steal to many sells from the 335i.